2024 Zhuhai Airshow main thread, Air Systems

Schwerter_

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Yep, but Interfax has it too:

The news may very well be real, but that doesn’t really make defensemirror.com any more credible imo
 

Deino

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The news may very well be real, but that doesn’t really make defensemirror.com any more credible imo


Exactly my point - see my previous reply - but you all know my scepticism about questioning everything and even though only the usual "click-bait" sites have reported on it so far, with Interfax is a first source that makes me "sit up".
 

Storm bombardier

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  • Quotes a website with absolutely no military or governmental affiliations and essentially zero recognition by other sources with just 3 listed managers for the entire site, only one of which (who is, from researching his publications, just some random journalist and according to his LinkedIn page works for a closed company) has a profile pic
  • Get angry by others calling out the website as not credible
  • Refuses to elaborate
  • Ragequits
Man.
There's no point in arguing, sir. I was simply asking a question. Mr. Deino could've just said there's no information available, but instead, he brought up those irrelevant websites as if I manage them. The second link clearly stated that Alexander Mikheyev, the company head, mentioned in an interview with Rossiya 1 TV channel (VGTRK) today.
 

Schwerter_

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There's no point in arguing, sir. I was simply asking a question. Mr. Deino could've just said there's no information available, but instead, he brought up those irrelevant websites as if I manage them. The second link clearly stated that Alexander Mikheyev, the company head, mentioned in an interview with Rossiya 1 TV channel (VGTRK) today.
Without going too deep down this rabbit hole, quotes from website news pieces aren’t necessarily 100% true. Based on what we know now su57 likely has indeed found an export customer but again that doesn’t mean the sources you referred to are necessarily credible.

Also he pointed out the first time that the website you cited is not credible and you followed up with another website that is only slightly better, so with 2 bad news sources in a row he can probably be excused for not taking the conversation super seriously
 

Deino

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There's no point in arguing, sir. I was simply asking a question. Mr. Deino could've just said there's no information available, but instead, he brought up those irrelevant websites as if I manage them. The second link clearly stated that Alexander Mikheyev, the company head, mentioned in an interview with Rossiya 1 TV channel (VGTRK) today.

Calm down, the only one who brought this up onto the table not even giving a link but just a screenshot from a most unreliable site was You! And don't get me wrong, but being fundamentally skeptical - especially in the face of such dubious or even non-existent sources - has always proven to be an advantage in order to be taken seriously. Otherwise, you quickly get the reputation of being a pure fan-boy who posts everything without thinking.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Assuming that the export news of Su-57E is actually factual - I suppose that the customers are in fact countries which would be deemed rather "politically sensitive" for China's J-35E (provisional designation) - And that Russia's current political situation (i.e. getting sanctioned left-and-right by the West) inadvertently granted them freer hands in such arms deals.

Otherwise, it'd be just inertia (namely, having currently operating largely Soviet/Russian fighters, and that continued support from Russia for their latest fighter jets would be easier).

Iran, Vietnam and Algeria comes to mind as probable customers.
 

Index

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I'm surprised Russia is in such an advantegous spot that they can start doing even this. Have earlier assumed they needed the vast majority of their focus on the war.

Kinda pointless imho to guess what nation gets the Su-57s, at this stage it could be any.
 
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