2024 Zhuhai Airshow main thread, Air Systems

Deino

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means in what sense ?? they are advertising AL-31F being used in J-20 models as well.. just a normal marketing

Well, do they really think the PLAAF - with the WS-10C already long mature and the WS-15 around the corner - will consider it as an engine for the J-20?

Even more, I thought the 117S = AL-41F-1S (izdeliye 117S) is the engine used by the T-50/Su-57 ... but what then is 177S?
 

sunnymaxi

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Well, do they really think the PLAAF - with the WS-10C already long mature and the WS-15 around the corner - will consider it as an engine for the J-20?
i m sure, they know it very well. but i believe they are just advertising their engines for public and Media as UEC taking participate in any airshow first time.

Even more, I thought the 117S = AL-41F-1S (izdeliye 117S) is the engine used by the T-50/Su-57 ... but what then is 177S?
117S = AL-41

but what is 177S ? which engines ?? i don't know much about Russian numbers. @gelgoog
 

Gloire_bb

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Well, do they really think the PLAAF - with the WS-10C already long mature and the WS-15 around the corner - will consider it as an engine for the J-20?

Even more, I thought the 117S = AL-41F-1S (izdeliye 117S) is the engine used by the T-50/Su-57 ... but what then is 177S?
PLAAF very certainly will consider new, better replacement engines - if only for the AL-31 birds already in service, as WS-10 is not compatible and requires significant changes to the aircraft. There are still hundreds of such aircraft in Chinese service, and they will be in service till 2040s.

PLAAF/PLANAF may not pick them, but they'll most certainly take them into account, and this is by no means a proposal without merit.
Relationship between countries is also a factor here.
but what is 177S ? which engines ?? i don't know much about Russian numbers. @gelgoog
Mix between AL-51F and AL-31F with specs very close to the former, but fitting into al-31 nacelle without changes.
 
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