2024 Zhuhai Airshow main thread, Air Systems

[by78]

Outside display area as of today.

 

[antiterror13]

China is a rising power and with much more financial power and now even technical power than Russia. The gap will only keep getting bigger with each passing year. Russia's largest market for its arms industry should remain India and other developing countries for some time. Since they still have alot to offer those countries, China will be replacing alot of Russian weapon systems in the international market this coming decades especially from developing countries. So Russia's arm market will only reduce this coming decades.

or growing for both China and Russia for the expense of US, UK, France, Germany, etc

 

[MwRYum]

The appearance of su57 may indicate russia is seeking some sort co development.

China pursue a different tech tree than the Russia's so there's really not much room for co-development. The main reason why Russians bring Su-57 albeit its prototype instead of production model, is because of all the major regular airshows on Earth, Zhuhai Airshow is the only one that Russia can be confident of safety for its hardware and personnel..

 

[sheogorath]

or growing for both China and Russia for the expense of US, UK, France, Germany, etc

Its funny how some people can't stop seeing international relationships and trade between the Global South as a zero sum game. Someone always have to lose and then wonder why the world order is shifting.

China pursue a different tech tree than the Russia's so there's really not much room for co-development. The main reason why Russians bring Su-57 albeit its prototype instead of production model, is because of all the major regular airshows on Earth, Zhuhai Airshow is the only one that Russia can be confident of safety for its hardware and personnel..

Is this the first time the Su-57 performs outside of Russia?. I don't remember ever seeing it outside of MAKS.

 

[MwRYum]

or growing for both China and Russia for the expense of US, UK, France, Germany, etc

US hardware has way too many strings attached.

European hardware are essentially US hardware internally wise, so that makes them the same in the greater scheme of things.

Russian hardware...well the biggest question lies they can't supply while the war in Ukraine is still ongoing.

So that leaves China - very little strings attached.

 

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Russians going all out, they're going to put an izdeliye 30 on display at Zhuhai.

Apparently, they are also going to show new variants of the AL-31F (AL-31FN series 5) and the SM100.

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[sunnymaxi]

For the first time Rostec will present at the international exhibition in Zhuhai an updated line of engines of the AL-31F/FN family,including the 5th series,a new SM-100 engine and a completely new 5th-gen. engine for the most advanced operational-tactical aircraft,”-V. Artyakov

 

[Gloire_bb]

J-20 and Su-57 in the same frame. Posted by @洋务先驱张之洞 on Weibo.

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J-35A is here! By the same guy on Weibo.

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Incredible!
Let's make it 3!(or 4?)

Is this the first time the Su-57 performs outside of Russia?. I don't remember ever seeing it outside of MAKS.

It's first time it is outside of Russia*peacefully*, yes.
And the first time 5th gens of different nations meet, too.

 

[Deino]

For the first time Rostec will present at the international exhibition in Zhuhai an updated line of engines of the AL-31F/FN family,including the 5th series,a new SM-100 engine and a completely new 5th-gen. engine for the most advanced operational-tactical aircraft,”-V. Artyakov

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... and even the AL-51F (if reports are correct!)


But what is this?