2024 American Election Result Predictions!

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  • Harris + 2 to 25 Trump

    Votes: 12 27.3%

  • Trump +2 to 25 Harris

    Votes: 10 22.7%

  • Harris + 25 to 50 Trump

    Votes: 2 4.5%

  • Trump +25 to 50 Harris

    Votes: 3 6.8%

  • Harris + 50 to 86 Trump

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Trump +50 to 86 Harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jeb! +538 Guaido

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • MrBeast +300 JohnnySomali

    Votes: 9 20.5%
  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .
proelite

proelite

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If Trump does anything drastic, China can threaten to end the use of dollars for imports and exports. Countries would love to use something other than the dollar. The US's dependence on the dollar for its standard of living is the single biggest weakness amongst all major nations in the world.

US exports are already at the level they can be potentially, so increased export competitiveness wouldn't do squat.
 
daifo

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Trump might find himself busy having to appease his donor and his deep state appointees. Possible conflict in the middle east is still a possiblity,. The Houthi's attacking US shipping will force Trump to retaliate otherwise he would be the weak looking one that he blasted Biden on.

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Might be in a similar situation as last time where Trump spent 2 years with his bigger campaign promises like immigration, economy, cleaning the government out , etc before going after China.
 
siegecrossbow

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siegecrossbow said:
The big take away from this election is that soft power means jackshit if ground reality is different. You can Bonnard the populace with propaganda 24/7 but that cannot change reality.
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All this effort and they still lost…

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If I were Trump I’d cancel the 1.6 billion dollar disinformation campaign against the PRC. It is a waste of money.
 
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Overbom said:
Nothing is implied until you actually write it down. And when the Iran deal couldn't be made a treaty what makes you think that Russia's will pass through.

And have you thought what signal this would send to the whole world and US valued allies TM. Would love to be a fly on the wall when the Euros learnt about this

Nobody likes someone who betrays people, especially in such a blatant way


Plenty of countries that share borders which are not enemies. Literally close your eyes, spin the globe, pick a random continent and you will find plenty of examples

And who said that they even have to be enemies, maybe they can be friends, maybe they can be neutral. There is a long way before becoming enemies with someone


I rest my case based on your original comment, that's all I have to say. If you really think that your proposal is something that is realistic, what can I say..
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The whole of Congress is behind containing China and you can get Congress to screw Ukraine over if it means containing China. Iran deal couldn't sell because Israel wasn't onboard and it was rushed to secure Obama's legacy before he left office.
The majority of countries that border one another aren't enemies, doesn't mean Russia will care about making China an enemy if it secures their annexation of Ukraine.
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daifo

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Bob Smith said:
The whole of Congress is behind containing China and you can get Congress to screw Ukraine over if it means containing China. Iran deal couldn't sell because Israel wasn't onboard and it was rushed to secure Obama's legacy before he left office.
The majority of countries that border one another aren't enemies, doesn't mean Russia will care about making China an enemy if it secures their annexation of Ukraine.
Regarded regard.
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The US has been talking about killing all Russians and funded conflicts that killed 1 million+ of them in the past 80 years vs the Chinese that never really promoted this idea. Can you explain to me who would a rational country and leader pick as their friend?
 
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SanWenYu

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mossen said:
Trump outright won Latinx men. When I say that the future of the Western right is going to be brown, this is what I mean.

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BTW, we don't have breakdowns by gender for Asian-Americans but Trump did get 38% of the overall Asian vote.

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So given Trump's advantage among men, he probably got a pretty high vote share among Asian men.

The Obama coalition has fallen apart. We will see how long this realignment lasts.
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Will be more Latino divorces in the coming 4 years.
 
coolgod

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daifo said:
Trump might find himself busy having to appease his donor and his deep state appointees. Possible conflict in the middle east is still a possiblity,. The Houthi's attacking US shipping will force Trump to retaliate otherwise he would be the weak looking one that he blasted Biden on.

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Might be in a similar situation as last time where Trump spent 2 years with his bigger campaign promises like immigration, economy, cleaning the government out , etc before going after China.
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Great news, the article didn't mention China at all.

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Bilateral relations with China must be “fair and reciprocal”​

Hook believes China represents the preeminent national security concern for our next President. “The Great Competition,” with China brings many diplomatic challenges, including adherence to the rules-based international order, accountability, human rights violations, predatory trade practices, and military build-up.

He believes there’s bipartisan support for alliances that would hold China accountable for its actions, and to ensure that “fairness and reciprocity” is core to our foreign policy. “When China says win-win, it means two wins for China…when we say win-win, it's an entirely different formula,” says Hook.
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Although he is uncertain about Biden’s strategy, he says that if Trump were reelected, he will likely insist on fair trade by initiating Phase Two of the trade talks and continuing the tariffs. Referencing our 375,000 troops and 200 ships in the region, he predicts Trump will maintain a robust U.S. military presence in the Pacific.

“When China says win-win, it means two wins for China…When we say win-win, it's an entirely different formula.”
- Brian Hook, Former U.S. Special Representative for Iran and Senior Policy Advisor to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
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Hook adds that the China rivalry won’t necessarily lead to conflict or confrontation, but adds that it might be wise for the U.S. to keep a “very close eye on” the risks in the South China Sea and Taiwan.
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Another read on Brian Hook and his foreign policy takes.
 
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