2024 American Election Result Predictions!

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  • Harris + 2 to 25 Trump

    Votes: 12 27.3%
  • Trump +2 to 25 Harris

    Votes: 10 22.7%
  • Harris + 25 to 50 Trump

    Votes: 2 4.5%
  • Trump +25 to 50 Harris

    Votes: 3 6.8%
  • Harris + 50 to 86 Trump

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Trump +50 to 86 Harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jeb! +538 Guaido

    Votes: 7 15.9%
  • MrBeast +300 JohnnySomali

    Votes: 9 20.5%

  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .

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Senior Member
Registered Member
I'd bet a bunch of money on Russia backstabbing China if Trump can offer Russia full and permanent US recognition of annexed Ukraine as Russian territory.
They won't dude, China was always deeper inside Russia than US, and the whole Ukraine war was to rip up whatever remained of US' ties and assets.

Putin confiscated billions from the west and further slapped many western companies with continued fines as they left Russia. There's 0 chance those multinational companies will crawl back humiliated, even if Trump ordered them at gunpoint.

You are more likely to see councillation between Israel and Iran than between Russia and US...
 

Almond98

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Countries like Poland and Baltics, which are extremely anti-Russia will have even more justification for bigger military spending. EU will also likely try to coalesce around itself. So you will get an EU that is more united, more anti-Russia, more powerful militarily. The more stronger EU gets the more bad for Russia. EU is the biggest enemy that Russia faces, not the US.
I dont think they are going to be more united. Infact its going to be opposite. Some countries are already tired of ukraine-russia war. They want end this war soon. While other countries like uk wants to prolong it and do as much damage to russia before ukraine falls. There is already crack in EU under biden administration. Trump want this war to end. Even if that means ukraine to give up territories. A lot of country wont like this. And if ukraine surrender, then there would be chaos in europe.
 

antwerpery

Just Hatched
Registered Member
I'd bet a bunch of money on Russia backstabbing China if Trump can offer Russia full and permanent US recognition of annexed Ukraine as Russian territory.
The issue is that it will only last as long as Trump/republicans stay in power. That’s the issue with drastic policy shifts every 4 years. Who would want to ally with you long term? Trump could offer up all of Ukraine to Russia and Moscow cannot remain a long term ally if America was to do a 180 degree shift with the next election cycle.

This will probably be the defining part of his legacy. Just how much flip flops will he do. If he panders hard to Russia, neuters CHIPS and IRA and America green policy, exits the Paris agreement and more, then it’s impossible for the world to ever trust America ever again. Trump already did a lot of damage by walking back of lot of stuff that Obama did. Nobody will ever trust America as a long term partner ever again if every new administration has completely opposite policies. Their empire will crumble overnight.

If anything, the bipartisan approach for America to fuck over China is good, it’s stable and predictable, allowing China to plan and counter it.
 

iewgnem

Junior Member
Registered Member
I'd bet a bunch of money on Russia backstabbing China if Trump can offer Russia full and permanent US recognition of annexed Ukraine as Russian territory.
Yeah but what if China recognize the entirety of Ukraine as Russian territory?
America has multiple personality disorder, but other people don't and all they see is one mentally unstable person.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Isn't the historical consensus on Molotov Ribbentrop pact that it was necessary to buy time for the USSR to rebuild its military?

Either if revanchist Harris or thieving oligach Trump took power, China must still hit America very hard. Trump does buy China more time, because it's easier to manipulate him and isolate him against the other western countries.

I just hope we'll soon experience a national awakening. China is cursed with ability but no will, while the fascist world is cursed with will but no ability. We could actually learn a few things from how they manipulate public opinion and create outsized claims.

Do not mistake Chinese strength as weakness. China is not interested in starting a fight against America as soon as it has achieved a decent chance of victory. If it had its way, it will not fight America until America has absolutely no chance left at all.

Getting an otherwise intelligent, well-educated and rational people to want to go to war is easy. It is the responsibility of national leaders to make sure that war is both the last resort and also as much of a guaranteed victory as possible before committing their nation and people to war.

Trump is great for China because he offers Beijing the greatest chance of being able to cow America out of the direct hot war, for 4 more years at least, that so many of its wiser strategists are pushing for now. Because they also see China’s game plan and reason its better to fight now, while there is still a reasonable chance of victory, as opposed to later, when they will have no chance.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
I'd bet a bunch of money on Russia backstabbing China if Trump can offer Russia full and permanent US recognition of annexed Ukraine as Russian territory.
Trade something nebulous such as "full and permanent US recognition" (*only applies to current administration TM), for backstabbing your multi-thousand border powerful neighbour whose center of power is much closer to your border regions than your own.

Did you study at Trump's School of Geopolitics along with all the other US think tankers?
 

FriedButter

Colonel
Registered Member
Trade something nebulous such as "full and permanent US recognition" (*only applies to current administration TM), for backstabbing your multi-thousand border neighbour whose center of power is much closer to your border regions than your own.

Did you study at Trump's School of Geopolitics along with all the other US think tankers?

More like Neo-con / warmonger. Those people think that if they throw a bone at the Russians. They will come running back to the West while drooling. Russia has staked their future and economic future on a multipolar world. Nothing is changing that. The west is completely unreliable for any economic relations that will be broken, stolen, and destroyed at their pleasure.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
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What happens to Trump’s criminal and civil cases now that he’s been reelected​


Purges are coming:)
behold the power of AI !!

In a startling development, authoritarian leader Donald Trump has consolidated power following a contentious election, swiftly moving to dismantle democratic institutions. The Supreme Leader wasted no time in stacking the Central Committee with loyalists and family members, while declaring all legal proceedings against him "enemy propaganda."

Sources within the regime report that Trump has ordered the Justice Department to be renamed the "Department of Absolute Loyalty" and has begun issuing decrees from a newly constructed golden throne in the Oval Office.

The Supreme Leader's inner circle hints at plans to replace the Constitution with a document titled "The Art of the Tremendous Deal." When asked for comment, the regime's spokesperson stated, 'The Glorious Chairman Trump's wisdom is beyond question. Dissent will not be tolerated.'"
 

Bob Smith

Junior Member
Registered Member
Trade something nebulous such as "full and permanent US recognition" (*only applies to current administration TM), for backstabbing your multi-thousand border powerful neighbour whose center of power is much closer to your border regions than your own.

Did you study at Trump's School of Geopolitics along with all the other US think tankers?
Full and permanent will have to result from a treaty with Senate support which was implied when I said full and permanent. Nations that share borders are enemies all the time, don't know why you're so confused. Imagine trying to be a smartass and sounding so regarded. :(
 
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