2024 American Election Result Predictions!

Point spread, make your predictions here!

  • Harris + 2 to 25 Trump

    Votes: 12 27.3%
  • Trump +2 to 25 Harris

    Votes: 10 22.7%
  • Harris + 25 to 50 Trump

    Votes: 2 4.5%
  • Trump +25 to 50 Harris

    Votes: 3 6.8%
  • Harris + 50 to 86 Trump

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Trump +50 to 86 Harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jeb! +538 Guaido

    Votes: 7 15.9%
  • MrBeast +300 JohnnySomali

    Votes: 9 20.5%

  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .

lube

Junior Member
Registered Member
On liberal democracy, I am in similar position but interpret differently. It is not cracking. It is same as always was, we are just seeing the same thing without illusions. It was overrated from the start. But if you look back in the past, nothing really changed.

It's just America's political system is exceptionally flawed and increasingly unrepresentative.
And all of the system's guardrails have no power over people once they realized they're not law. Just convention.

Maybe it's more stable to be poor as Europeans but with a system that gives voters a greater voice and choice (if only marginally on some topics)
 

Index

Senior Member
Registered Member
To the Americans on the forum, your country should now be renamed: United Sanctions of America
Idk, if Trump scales back revanchism, its less likely he'll get his country further sanctioned than Kamala would have. Kamala is/was basically reaching dangerous extreme levels of revanchism.

Trump will pick fights in the middle east and abandon Europe. That's a good compromise for everyone except Iran, who will get the full Ukraine experience (not really, we'll probably do a better job of supplying them than NATO did for Ukraine).
 

TK3600

Major
Registered Member
they will regret not supporting Asians.

Small anecdote:

1. the young Asian Americans are extremely disappointed at the Party's persecution of Chinese Americans, silence on Stop Asian Hate, and uncritical support for Isr.

2. the old boomer Asian Americans fell into Epoch Times bullshit. See Lily Tang Williams.

3. only a very narrow demographic of Asian Americans - the Hollywood watching, English only, DEI neoliberals - supported the Party without question.
Despite the angry screams Asians share more common ground with Trump. It is a similar story with Latinos.

Asians are socially conservative, trans bullshit is a none-starter.

DEI nonesense are silent on Asian discrimination, only oppress Asian more to cater to black. SAT entry score for Harvard for example. In that context Trump being racist is not deal breaker. A racist white overlord is no different from racist black overlord.

Many Asians are well off, and low tax could benefit their business. Welfare dont help.

They are all legal migrants, and hold supreme distain to illegals.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
Looks like Elon won’t need to flee to the PRC. Guess that’s the silver lining to this mess.
It's good for him tbh. He is so used to being an oligarch that if he fled to the PRC that he would likely attempt to do or say something stupid to influence the Party.
And you know what happens when spoiled rich kids try to extend their hands to political power in China..

Better to stay in America instead
 

dingyibvs

Junior Member
I know family friends that moved from SF for the 'anti-woke' reasons, code for getting robbed or knowing people getting robbed and feeling unsafe.

Doesn't matter if their concerns are exaggerated, or if they're just inhaling right wing media/whatsapp disinformation and regurgitating it back.

The sentiment is real now.
I live in the SF bay area, and I agree with the assessment that a lot of Asians are turned off from the Dems right now. The number one reason is safety. Anti-Asian hate crime happens once in a blue moon, but robbery and thefts is a daily occurrence. We only hear about Asian hate crime on the news, but every single one of us knows numerous people who are or have personally been victims of thefts and robberies. There are other issues, such as affirmative action being essentially against Asian interests, or conservative Asian values not aligning with the transgender agenda, but those are minor things.

People care most about things that directly affect their own lives, and safety is number one with economy being number two. You'll see DAs all across California getting voted out, and any politician in any major metropolitan area who doesn't take a tough on crime stance will get voted out as well. Too bad my own county's DA isn't up for re-election this time around, the nerve of her to oppose Prop 36 which allows for more severe punishment for drug and theft crimes. It's the one Proposition that passed in every single county, with a supermajority of >70% of the votes. She sure stood on the wrong side of that fight.

My overall assessment of the California area is that in general, people don't want to vote Republican for fear of standing with the overtly racist and generally intolerant Republican far right. However, they're primed for a change within the Democratic party. That means they're no longer gonna tolerate candidates who are soft on crime. That will take precedent over everything else. The gender wars get a lot of publicity, but IMO that simply doesn't factor into most people's voting decisions because at the end of the day, it just doesn't affect most people's lives.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Chinese libs will literally have to go pound sand now… The Donald really have a penchant for firing people who deliver no results. Maybe they should research if that constitutes a new sexual orientation and see if they can secure some pocket change from civilian libs?

Too bad Donald is going to obliterate all that Democrat immigration money shower, as their plan B of just ‘loosing’ their documents and pretending to be fresh off the boat immigrants from China to get free everything isn’t going work no more.
 
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