2024 American Election Result Predictions!

dingyibvs said:

Sure, that's Trump's core supporters, but those are not the ones who decide the election just as the ultraliberals who support the Dems are not the ones who decide the election. The ones who decide the election are the swing voters, who care more about their quality of life than what color or gender is in the White House.

IMo that part America is becoming more overtly racist is a symptom of a decrease in quality of life. I've always said that the problem with liberal democracy is that it's a system for front-runners. It's works fine when they're relatively wealthy and can siphon wealth from the rest of the world to continue its growth as it helps with equitable distribution of the said wealth. However, a liberal democracy under threat simply becomes the majority oppressing the minority. The majority will blame the minority for all the society's ills, and use that as an excuse to unevenly divvy up limited resources to their advantage.

BTW, minorities (specifically blacks and latinos) have higher birth rate than whites, and they're typically as much if not more against abortion than whites due to their heavier religious inclinations.

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coolgod said:

In a contested election, China and Russia should back different candidates. China should recognize Trump, while Russia should recognize Kamala, help split the world into two camps, USA and USB.

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E100 said:

It's probably both to be honest. Yakubians are racist af so their gonna mostly vote for a white guy, but Burgerlanders are struggling financially and socially. Which is something Trump did touch upon, even if it was in his "usual way". Kamala by contrast was just really smug and condescending about people’s issues and struggles. But ultimately this election and the ones before and after don't matter, the billionaires control Burgerland and beyond and they are always the winners of this circus.

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Africablack said:

Chief, can you please provide examples of how she was "really smug and condescending" about the issues people faced. Like what did she say and/or do?

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E100 said:

This was her response to a pro Palestine protestor. This is just one example from numerous other examples.

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Africablack said:

I've worked with whites long enough and I'm confident I understand them. I figured out a long time ago there's a difference between a racist and a supremacist (this is for lack of better terms). A supremacist is just someone that believes his culture is superior and a world where they don't dominate is a world they find absolutely repugnant. Their intelligence and values is supreme and having the world adopt it (even by force) can't be a bad thing, they reason. They don't necessarily hate other groups but they just want to maintain a dominant position, you see this in the way they are treating China today on a geopolitical level, China's rise threatens their domination and so they will do anything they can to stop its rise citing any sellable excuse that makes them appear like it's some noble cause (democracy vs tyranny, SCS, overcapacity, etc.). They may not hate the Chinese as a people but a China that's strong enough to call shots and can't be bullied into submission is a no-no. A racist is different, those ones just don't like the other groups and would prefer it if they are overtly subjugated and made to suffer. Chief, in my honest opinion, most of them fall in the former category, they may talk all the bs feel good crap they want to but when push comes to shove they will fight to maintain their domination at the expense of others, this is what Trump's election is really about.

I agree that western liberal democracy is starting to look funny in the light, I don't believe any one system of governance is necessarily better than the other despite what westerners want to sell to everybody. A system works because of 1) the quality of people manning the system and 2) the level of economic and societal development. Smart leaders understand this and start making adjustments as factors begin to change, the Soviets refused to see reality and adjust and that's what doomed them. China took a different path, adjusted (and continues to make gradual adjustments) and it has resulted in the second largest economy in the world. While I won't go as far as saying we're witnessing the end of western style liberal democracy, I think we're starting to see serious cracks in that system.

As for minorities having higher birth rates than whites, two things come to mind: 1) The black population has hovered around 13% of the total US population for a while, they are not worried about the black population out breeding them. Blacks may have higher birthrates but they also have high abortion rates (It believe it's the highest). 2) Latinos are their main concern because of the porous land border. Their growing numbers is alarming and they want to put a stop to that. They want abortion to be banned because they want to remove any obstacle to their goal of increasing their birthrate and thus maintain their domination, this is the real reason why the two biggest issues for them are immigration and abortion. When some start throwing subjective stats to prove otherwise I just laugh, these folks have shown me who they are and that's all I need to know.

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Bellum_Romanum said:

You embody and hold a supremacist view that you deride whites for holding with the opinion you just wrote. So your experience and opinion which are also SUBJECTIVE somehow trumps any data that contradicts your opinion because they're "SUBJECTIVE." How open minded of you kind sir.

You're free to spew your belief as if it were gospel truth and any dissenting opinion to the contrary must be dismissed because it doesn't jive with your world view. That's a quintessential American trait; the very trait you suppress that inevitable comes out whenever a touchy topic and subject matter is discussed.

Blacks do commit or have the most abortion because why? And if somehow abortion gets banned in the U.S. would it not be a boon to the American black population as a result? As for the Latino population becoming a threat to white America due to the influx of illegals coming in from the porous border, that's hella insulting to the many Latino Americans which is a group that's not even monolith since they come and comprise from different South American and Caribbean countries (which I assume you're more than well aware). It's never a good thing societally, politically, and economically for any country to have an open border especially when the number of folks that come in tend to be culturally, linguistically, foreign to the general American population at large.

I don't know why you're salty about the result of this election and dismissive of people's opinion that don't conform to your belief as if you're the only one who's worked with white people and therefore have the unique insight into a white person's thinking. That's absurd, not to mention racist as heck.

You can be offended all you want but Chief, if you have not noticed you're on a forum that's mostly, if not all compromised of Chinese/Asian folks that are working, residing in your neck of the woods and or have worked, studied in America and elsewhere majority white people breathe and live. Our experiences matter just as much, and just as valid as yours.

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Africablack said:

She shot down a heckler, anybody would do that. The heckler was the one being disrespectful, furthermore what about Trump straight up kicking out folks who did the same thing in the past and flat out commented about what they would do to folks like that in the "old days"? Funny, he gets a pass but when others do it it's "condescending". I recall Obama did the same thing in 2008 and that was one of the few times I've ever seen him get out of character, hecklers are a nuisance but I get it, folks like Obama and Kamala must be held to a higher standard but Fuhrer Trump gets a pass.

Any other examples? I seem to recall her saying she wants to help the middle class so I don't know where the condescending excuse comes from.

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Africablack said:

She shot down a heckler, anybody would do that. The heckler was the one being disrespectful, furthermore what about Trump straight up kicking out folks who did the same thing in the past and flat out commented about what they would do to folks like that in the "old days"? Funny, he gets a pass but when others do it it's "condescending". I recall Obama did the same thing in 2008 and that was one of the few times I've ever seen him get out of character, hecklers are a nuisance but I get it, folks like Obama and Kamala must be held to a higher standard but Fuhrer Trump gets a pass.

Any other examples? I seem to recall her saying she wants to help the middle class so I don't know where the condescending excuse comes from.

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TPenglake said:

Man's got 70 million regular listeners on his podcast, his audience are ideaologues who are going to vote. Turns out all those popstar endoresements, including from the queen Taylor Swift did jack all for Harris.

And people still have the gall to call BTS and Blackpink "soft power."

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