2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

getready

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Watermelon thief almost maimed Wu Dajing! Why is no one talking about this? (seriously)

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I watched the race. He deliberately left his leg hanging there. In that split second to react and avoid injury, Wu wasted time and could be in top 2. Missed the final as a result. I think he probably won't get gold but would have medalled. Real shame and disgusting move by the korean. Their silver Medalist in the men's 500m speed skating also deliberating made a sweeping movement during the medal ceremony as if implying china is dirty. Koreans are bad losers.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I have to say it's extremely difficult to pull another Eileen Gu, even with his eventual Olympic Gold and everything else. Eileen Gu is so unique, both her circumstances and talents.

As I said a couple of times before in this thread, Eileen Gu was well-known in China before this Olympic, even before she decided to represent China. At the beginning, it was within the extreme sports community, then she gradually enlarged the circle of influence. There have been so many purposely-shot videos and films since she was a kid in China. These videos are circulated in the Chinese media now, further fanning the fervor around her. She also had a Weibo account wayback when, which was actually created by Lu Jian, the so-called father of China's ski resort industry. He even gave her the nickname "frog princess" (“青蛙公主”) on Weibo account, apparently a very popular one now. I kept thinking to myself that the marketing of Eileen Gu in China has been so long and so deliberate in the making. Give credit to her mother, bringing her daughter to China every year since she was a little child.

Nathan Chen's parents are obviously very smart and very successful in the US later on, but they were from a relatively humble roots (from Guangxi Province?). Eileen Gu's mother, Gu Yan, is someone entirely different in China. She grew up in Beijing, of a family of much better circumstances, graduated from one of China's two best universities (Peking University) and was with the school's speed skating team back then. When Eileen Gu won the gold medal last week, the Municipal Government of Beijing sent telegram of congratulations claiming Eileen Gu as Beijing resident. Even the Ministry of Transportation chimed in, sending in a letter of congratulations to (the former) Chief Engineer Feng, Eileen's maternal grandma. While these may sound funny, it does show how pluggedin Eileen's family is in China.

And then there is Eileen Gu herself, put aside her talents and interesting and intriguing stories, her outgoing personality, her character, and her Mandarin Chinese - not just fluent but perfect. All these have won her popularity with Chinese fans and Chinese in general--everyone can pick something from her background--in this age of social media.

It'll be difficult to imagine Nathan Chen, with all his Chineseness, could remotely pull an Eileen Gu. But then again, if he could have pulled a fraction of Eileen Gu, it would still be a phenomenal success.

There are a lot of uncertainties ahead of Eileen Gu's life, given how young she is and the treacherous relationship between China and the US. For now, it appears to be all good.
Nathan Chen's father is from Guangxi but his mother is from Beijing. In addition his father was already a doctor in China, immigrated to the US in the 1980's (so one of the earliest and most privileged immigrants) and is the president of a pharmaceutical company.

See my post here for citations.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Its all about point of deminishing returns... these days Chess and Go do not need supercomputers... I can run LeelaChessZero and KataGo AI on my desktop PC with rtx3090 and its good enough as a supercomputer


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As for the sled thing, its advertising for US supercomputer, they didnt need it. Honestly could have hired some Indians for $5 on Fiverr to use Simulia PowerFlow to solved it for them

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Yeah but luge for example is timed to the thousands of a second 0.00X. Sometimes you win to the 0.006 second. Not kidding.

In this case every advantage counts. You can pay your Indian $5, I'll use the supercomputer.

When the competition is down to thousands of a second.... you want the very best sled.

Not tenths of a second or hundreds of a second man... Crazy
 

getready

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I think the main difference is Emma's dad was present for her entire life, by all accounts loving & supportive. Hence her last name and identifying equally with her dad's background and her mom's.

"...The teen and her dad would hit tennis balls together in the street during the Covid lockdowns...Raducanu has on many occasions spoken about the importance of her father, Ian. Known for his no-nonsense approach and one never afraid to mince his words, he has helped form her career and has hired and fired her coaches." -https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meet-emma-raducanus-parents-tough-24966190
That's strange. If her dads influence is very important, I would think he would ask her to represent his native country of Romania. Especially as their women's tennis program is quite successful and at an all time high in recent years with former world no 2 halep, top 50 cirstea and a few others I forget that are quite highly ranked. Unless he feels UK can get her more endorsements and less competition.

What's to stop Emma from changing which country to represent
Probably will be big decision. I think the rules to switch country representation will require the athlete to not be able to compete in international competition for a period of time.
 

getready

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Lol the only Indian athlete in the Olympics finished dead last at alpine skiing. Number 46 position.

The commentator was like "let's see if he gets to the bottom"

And then later he was like "finishes in 46th position!!" (enthusiastic tone)
LOL I was watching this race and didn't realize he was dead last. The comments on the cctv app mentioned he was basically just there for a holiday lol. The last guy to come out to ski was from Jamaica. I thought this guy most likely would finish dead last. Imagine getting beaten by an alpine skiier from Jamaica.
 
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SinoaTerrenum

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That's strange. If her dads influence is very important, I would think he would ask her to represent his native country of Romania. Especially as their women's tennis program is quite successful and at an all time high in recent years with former world no 2 halep, top 50 cirstea and a few others I forget that are quite highly ranked. Unless he feels UK can get her more endorsements and less competition.


Probably will be big decision. I think the rules to switch country representation will require the athlete to not be able to compete in international competition for a period of time.
I'd venture the Romanian domestic market is not more advantaged than the UK, and both mommy and daddy Raducanu moved to the UK when Emma was 2 yrs old for a better life.
 

SinoaTerrenum

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LOL I was watching this race and didn't realize he was dead last. The comments on the cctv mentioned he was basically just there for a holiday lol. The last guy to come out to ski was from Jamaica. I thought this guy most likely would finish dead last. Imagine getting beaten by an alpine skiier from Jamaica.
L(Mao) that's hilarious and sad at the same time. Respect to the Jamaicans for fielding a bobsledding team back in the day, coming from a small and poor tropical island, Olympic spirit right there.
 

getready

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L(Mao) that's hilarious and sad at the same time. Respect to the Jamaicans for fielding a bobsledding team back in the day, coming from a small and poor tropical island, Olympic spirit right there.
And they made a movie about that. Cool running was one of my favourite fun movie to watch when I was growing up. A tad condescending though but quite funny..
 
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