2019 India-Pakistani border clash

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TerraN_EmpirE

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Or the fringe possibilities, failed to Self destruct because of technical issues IE improperly installed fuse, faulty wiring, it's Tuesday...
 

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NEW DELHI (AP) — India said Saturday that it was returning a key diplomat to Pakistan's capital amid an easing of tensions between the nuclear neighbors, but also demanded that its archrival take concrete steps against terrorists operating from its territory.

India's high commissioner to Pakistan was to return to Islamabad on Saturday, Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar said in a statement. Pakistan had announced earlier in the week that its high commissioner to India was returning to New Delhi.

The moves come after the two countries recalled their diplomats for consultations as tensions flared after a Feb. 14 suicide attack on a convoy of Indian paramilitary soldiers in Pulwama in the Indian-held portion Kashmir that killed 40 soldiers.

India blamed the attack on a Pakistan-based militant group, Jaish-e-Mohammed, and launched a retaliatory airstrike inside Pakistan.

Asked whether it was right to say that the worst was over and de-escalation has taken place between the two neighbours, Kumar said at a media briefing on Saturday that India's airstrike on a terrorist training camp inside Pakistan on Feb. 26 was "necessitated by the lack of action by Pakistan on the perpetrators of Pulwama attack."

Kumar said that a reported Pakistani crackdown earlier in the week on seminaries, mosques and hospitals belonging to outlawed groups and the arrests of dozens of people was not enough, and that Pakistan should take concrete steps "against terrorists and terror infrastructure" on its territory.

He said a recent United Nations statement also called for "perpetrators, organizers, financiers and sponsors of terrorism to be held accountable and brought to justice."

Kumar accused Pakistan of failing to take any credible action against Jaish-e-Mohammed and other terrorist organizations, which he said continued to operate with impunity from Pakistan.

"The widespread presence of terrorist camps in Pakistan is public knowledge within and outside Pakistan," he said.

Pakistan says it has arrested 44 people, including the brother of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar who was apparently named in a dossier given to Islamabad by New Delhi. It also says it shut a number of facilities and froze assets of several outlawed organizations.

Pakistan's information minister, Fawad Chaudhry, said Saturday that his country was acting against the banned militant outfits and would not allow anyone to "use Pakistani land for terrorism against any country."

He also said Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan had asked India to send evidence it has against any individuals.

"India hasn't shared yet any actionable information and proof against anybody," Chaudhry said.

He also said Khan has invited India to take part in a joint investigation and negotiations, but that there had been no response from the Indian side.

New Delhi's retaliatory strike in the northwest Pakistani town of Balakot last month sent tensions spiraling.

India said its air force hit a terrorist training camp and killed "a very large number" of militants. Pakistan said the strike only damaged three trees in a forest.

Islamabad responded by shooting down two Indian warplanes and capturing a pilot, who was later returned to India as a peace gesture. India said it lost only one aircraft.

Since then, the two sides have exercised restraint amid calls from the international community to avoid war.
 

AssassinsMace

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US investigating is for comfort only. What more defines for defensives purposes only than this situation. Why would the US allow the purchase when they know full well which country they will be used in defense against. I read an article where the claim was they were only to be used against the Taliban and other terrorists. Since when do they have an air force?
 

SteelBird

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US investigating is for comfort only. What more defines for defensives purposes only than this situation. Why would the US allow the purchase when they know full well which country they will be used in defense against. I read an article where the claim was they were only to be used against the Taliban and other terrorists. Since when do they have an air force?
another member has explained that the end user agreement allow Pakistan to use its F-16 within its territory only. if Pakistan want to fly its F-16 outside the country, it must have approval from the US first. so in this case, if PAF chase the IAF aircraft with their F-16 into India's airspace, it would have violate the end user agreement but an AMRAAM shot into India's airspace? I think that's another story.
 

AssassinsMace

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another member has explained that the end user agreement allow Pakistan to use its F-16 within its territory only. if Pakistan want to fly its F-16 outside the country, it must have approval from the US first. so in this case, if PAF chase the IAF aircraft with their F-16 into India's airspace, it would have violate the end user agreement but an AMRAAM shot into India's airspace? I think that's another story.

Still pretty absurd. So basically Pakistan has to wait until Indian fighters are well within Pakistan so they can come around from behind just to make sure the missiles falls in Pakistan and not India. It's a nice distraction that the US is a benefactor from both sides going to war. It's like during the Afghan War against the Soviets, the US bought Chinese arms to give to Afghanistan which many are the Taliban today so it didn't look like the US was directly involved angering the Soviets. Then over twenty years later Afghanistan still in possession of some of those arms the US accuses China of aiding terrorists.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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US investigating is for comfort only. What more defines for defensives purposes only than this situation. Why would the US allow the purchase when they know full well which country they will be used in defense against. I read an article where the claim was they were only to be used against the Taliban and other terrorists. Since when do they have an air force?
They did. Afghanistan wasn't always a dystopian landscape. Before the Soviet invasion it was roughly on par with India and Pakistan. It had an airforce since 1924 it was small but fairly modern with pilot training and aircraft from both east and west. Until 1976 when the Soviets invaded they built up that airforce to use against the Mujahadin but primarily it was Czec and Cuban pilots who flew that fleet. In 1983 Pakistan was sold F16 between then and about 89 the Pakistanis intercepted a number of Afghan Airforce aircraft in there air space.
After the Soviet withdrawal that force declined in 92 The government fell apart. The Airforce was broken up but the Taliban got the lion's share of what was left 5 Mig21, 10 SU22, and other 5 L39C and a mix of transport and helicopters.
The Northern Alliance had just helicopters and transports. They had an airforce, tiny but an airforce. They also had tanks not many but some. Post 9/11 The U.S. came in and destroyed or captured what was left.
 

Equation

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Wow it really seems like India is not happy with the outcome. It has got no chill at all. It's like the person who got used and dumped in a relationship and can't let things go while Pakistan is like the one saying, "Chill baby, chill! Let's end things on good terms and not go crazy!" India's like the kid who threw a punch at another kid, missed and got nailed in the eye in the counter punch before the teacher broke up the fight. Now that kid is pissed because he doesn't want things to end with him being the one with the black eye. The attitude is so telling.
 
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