TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Even with these issues. Though compared to the 60 year old Mig21 it's a virtual quantum leap.
A fully integrated modern radar vs a bolted in generations old model on the Bison.
It may not "Dance" like a flanker but then neither can a Mig21 it's "good enough" . Factor in additional work load here.
JF17 fly by wire Mig21 manual controls.
JF17 modern MFD displays. Mig21 maybe a added MFD but mostly "steam punk" gauges.
Then add in range of view.
Mig21 was evaluated by the USAF, they felt it matched F5 except F5 was better. The Russians evaluated F5 vs Mig21 they came to the same conclusion.
It wasn't the fire power which is a down grade. It was when the Russian pilot climbed into F5 strapped in and closed the canopy. Suddenly he looked around and saw the world.
When the American pilot climbed in Mig21 strapped in and closed the canopy... claustrophobia.
You look at JF17 The Pakistanis followed F16, huge range of view pilot sits back he sees everything.
The Indians are said to have installed a Helmet mounted cuing system but that system works a million times better if you can track the target and don't loose it in the frame of the canopy.
You look at the air superiority fighters that emerged after Mig21 The start of the 4th gen they all at first had two seats.
This was because they had to off load the tasks of the weapons and detection to someone else. Flying the plane was to complicated enough as was. The second iterations of the 4th gens is when the rear seater is gone the interiors are simplified more and more systems are digitized or plugged into early MFD. Then F16 hits the sky with Fly by wire, Hands On Throttle-And-Stick and the plane flies it's self. Everything simplified.
JF17 sits at the edge of 5th gen avionics. His work load for a kill is easier. He can spend more time hunting targets than worried about the machine.
A fully integrated modern radar vs a bolted in generations old model on the Bison.
It may not "Dance" like a flanker but then neither can a Mig21 it's "good enough" . Factor in additional work load here.
JF17 fly by wire Mig21 manual controls.
JF17 modern MFD displays. Mig21 maybe a added MFD but mostly "steam punk" gauges.
Then add in range of view.
Mig21 was evaluated by the USAF, they felt it matched F5 except F5 was better. The Russians evaluated F5 vs Mig21 they came to the same conclusion.
It wasn't the fire power which is a down grade. It was when the Russian pilot climbed into F5 strapped in and closed the canopy. Suddenly he looked around and saw the world.
When the American pilot climbed in Mig21 strapped in and closed the canopy... claustrophobia.
You look at JF17 The Pakistanis followed F16, huge range of view pilot sits back he sees everything.
The Indians are said to have installed a Helmet mounted cuing system but that system works a million times better if you can track the target and don't loose it in the frame of the canopy.
You look at the air superiority fighters that emerged after Mig21 The start of the 4th gen they all at first had two seats.
This was because they had to off load the tasks of the weapons and detection to someone else. Flying the plane was to complicated enough as was. The second iterations of the 4th gens is when the rear seater is gone the interiors are simplified more and more systems are digitized or plugged into early MFD. Then F16 hits the sky with Fly by wire, Hands On Throttle-And-Stick and the plane flies it's self. Everything simplified.
JF17 sits at the edge of 5th gen avionics. His work load for a kill is easier. He can spend more time hunting targets than worried about the machine.