09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

tphuang

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According this French magazine specialized for Navies who is serious
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3 Type 094 in service ( 409, 410, 411 ) we know but 1 in trial, 414? and seems 2 new under construction maybe Type 096 ? with China it is of course always very difficult to know these things exactly.

That seen late last year at Huludao shipyard would be the 5th.

i think this sounds accurate from what we've seen and heard.
 

A.Man

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Oh, 093 with 2 094's

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Jeff Head

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I remember Chairman Mao said...

Chairman Mao has the foresight ....

Chairman Mao is all about...

If he's still alive today....

But current CCP leaderships are...
Mao_jr, you are new to this forum.

We welcome you here, but the following is a message to you, given as a super moderator on this forum:

This forum is not about politics or political leaders.

This thread is specifically about the Type 093/094 nuclear submarines from a military and technical perspective, and from a strategy perspective.

Your post does not say anything about those subs and does make political statements.

Chairman Mao is long dead. Reminiscing about him and wishing he were alive and in charge is an exercise in futility and is not what SD forum is about.

READ THE RULES AND FOLLOW THEM.
 

Blackstone

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well, in a way it does, if not for Mao's insistence on the SSBN and SSN program, you wouldn't see 094/093 as of today. The program was protected even during revolution. Because of his foresight, the program survived and move to second generation of 093/094. Otherwise, Chinese nuke powered sub program would be like a fate of Y-10 got aborted.
Just some history on Chinese sub program if audience is not aware of that.

Ok you're a Mao fan and he might or might not have made much difference in existence of 093 and 094 submarines. Now let's ditch the dude for future discussions.
 

Jeff Head

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well, in a way it does
No it does not.

if not for Mao's insistence ... [blah, blah, blah]
mao-jr

READ THE FORUM RULES. Then follow them.

You are not supposed to respond to moderation. Do not do so again.

In addition, you were specifically told that this thread is not about Mao or the earlier subs...yet you chose to keep talking about it.

So...now you are being officially WARNED. Continue and you will bne suspended, and then banned.


As I said, Mao is long dead...now for 38 years. I am aware of his leadership and that he lived to see the 1st Han Class sub launched in 1970 and commissioned in 1974. He died before the second could be launched in 1977.

But those are Type 91 class subs.

So, one more time: This thread is specifically about the Type 093/094 subs.
 
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antiterror13

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Successful Test of JL-3 nuclear SLBM Able to Hit Anywhere in the US

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Yomiuri Shimbun disclosed that a few days ago, a PLA nuclear submarine successfully launched a JL-3 SLBM that is regarded as the strongest strategic missile and hit a target at a desert in Xinjiang.

JL-3 is China’s third-generation submarine launched ICBM with a range exceeding 10,000 km. It can carry one or several warheads and is expected to be deployed in Type 096 nuclear submarines.

JL-3 uses a Changzheng-2F carrier rocket with reduced size. The the rocket has its booster removed but has been installed in addition with warheads and solid fuel.

Its range is 5,000 km longer than JL-2 (can reach 20,000 km to hit the remotest target in the world). It carries 5 to 7 350,000-ton nuclear warheads, each of which can strike a different target.

Analysts of US Navy Times believe that if JL-3s are deployed in China’s new generation of nuclear submarine, the entire United States will be within the range of the missiles no matter where they are.

This enables China to have the capacity of multiple nuclear strikes after being hit by its enemy as long as some of its submarines have survived.

A Russian military expert believes that the launch of a JL-3 SLCM proves that China’s nuclear deterrence has been upgraded from tactic to strategic level. China has integrated the technology of new submarines and new missiles to meet the requirements of actual war.

Source: qianzhan.com “China’s uncomparably powerful JL-3 strategic missile that the US and Japan pay great attention to” (summary by Chan Kai Yee)
 

delft

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Re: Successful Test of JL-3 nuclear SLBM Able to Hit Anywhere in the US

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Yomiuri Shimbun disclosed that a few days ago, a PLA nuclear submarine successfully launched a JL-3 SLBM that is regarded as the strongest strategic missile and hit a target at a desert in Xinjiang.

JL-3 is China’s third-generation submarine launched ICBM with a range exceeding 10,000 km. It can carry one or several warheads and is expected to be deployed in Type 096 nuclear submarines.

JL-3 uses a Changzheng-2F carrier rocket with reduced size. The the rocket has its booster removed but has been installed in addition with warheads and solid fuel.

Its range is 5,000 km longer than JL-2 (can reach 20,000 km to hit the remotest target in the world). It carries 5 to 7 350,000-ton nuclear warheads, each of which can strike a different target.

Analysts of US Navy Times believe that if JL-3s are deployed in China’s new generation of nuclear submarine, the entire United States will be within the range of the missiles no matter where they are.

This enables China to have the capacity of multiple nuclear strikes after being hit by its enemy as long as some of its submarines have survived.

A Russian military expert believes that the launch of a JL-3 SLCM proves that China’s nuclear deterrence has been upgraded from tactic to strategic level. China has integrated the technology of new submarines and new missiles to meet the requirements of actual war.

Source: qianzhan.com “China’s uncomparably powerful JL-3 strategic missile that the US and Japan pay great attention to” (summary by Chan Kai Yee)
When looking at the names of articles displayed besides this article on the website referred to I got an impression of unreliability.
 

Hytenxic

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Re: Successful Test of JL-3 nuclear SLBM Able to Hit Anywhere in the US

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Yomiuri Shimbun disclosed that a few days ago, a PLA nuclear submarine successfully launched a JL-3 SLBM that is regarded as the strongest strategic missile and hit a target at a desert in Xinjiang.

JL-3 is China’s third-generation submarine launched ICBM with a range exceeding 10,000 km. It can carry one or several warheads and is expected to be deployed in Type 096 nuclear submarines.

JL-3 uses a Changzheng-2F carrier rocket with reduced size. The the rocket has its booster removed but has been installed in addition with warheads and solid fuel.

Its range is 5,000 km longer than JL-2 (can reach 20,000 km to hit the remotest target in the world). It carries 5 to 7 350,000-ton nuclear warheads, each of which can strike a different target.

Analysts of US Navy Times believe that if JL-3s are deployed in China’s new generation of nuclear submarine, the entire United States will be within the range of the missiles no matter where they are.

This enables China to have the capacity of multiple nuclear strikes after being hit by its enemy as long as some of its submarines have survived.

A Russian military expert believes that the launch of a JL-3 SLCM proves that China’s nuclear deterrence has been upgraded from tactic to strategic level. China has integrated the technology of new submarines and new missiles to meet the requirements of actual war.

Source: qianzhan.com “China’s uncomparably powerful JL-3 strategic missile that the US and Japan pay great attention to” (summary by Chan Kai Yee)
Whole article seems off, can't find a proper source. Seems to be fake news.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Successful Test of JL-3 nuclear SLBM Able to Hit Anywhere in the US

Whole article seems off, can't find a proper source. Seems to be fake news.

The article references the Navy times. I just did a Google search and found no article on the JL-3 in the Navy times.

Indeed the article is questionable.
 

delft

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Re: Successful Test of JL-3 nuclear SLBM Able to Hit Anywhere in the US

The article references the Navy times. I just did a Google search and found no article on the JL-3 in the Navy times.

Indeed the article is questionable.

I think all articles on that website are questionable.
 
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