075 LHD thread

Hendrik_2000

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I notice some people here criticized China lack of Helicopter on LHD But they won't be commissioned for another 2 years plenty of times to ramp up production. Comparing China to to western countries that has long lead over China .They also oblivious to the tortuous and long development time of Chinese helicopters since China cannot just import powerful helicopter and has to built everything from scratch down to bolt and nut LKJ posted an interesting poster showing the type and timeline of Chinese naval helicopter
See from SA 321 Super Frelon to experimental HJ-Z8 it take them 20 years But not many are built since they have weak engine WZ6A took them another 10 year to arrive at type Z18H -J,F until they get better engine WZ6C the improve range and ceiling attitude as well as better avionic etc
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Z8A
As an army transport variant, Z-8A was developed by CHAIC and 602 Institute and was certified in February 1999. Two Z-8As were delivered to the Army for evaluation in 2001 but suffered from poor quality and performance due to the insufficient WZ-6A engine. Only a small batch of 9
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(K/JZ8A, S/N LH9638xx) were delivered to the Army since November 2002. Consequently Army decided to order more Mi-17V5s from Russia instead of additional Z-8As.

Z18
It was reported that the 602 Institute/Changhe have been developing an improved medium transport helicopter (
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) to replace the old naval Z-8. The helicopter is thought to be based on the earlier AC313 design and features a redesigned lower fuselage and improved WZ-6C turboshafts (~1,300kw), resulting in a larger internal space and a bigger load, as well as a better performance at higher altitude and temperature. It also features a nosed mounted weather radar and FLIR/TV turret. Additional communication and navigation antennas are installed underneath the fuselage. A SATCOM antenna was installed on top of the tail boom. Both the rotor blades and the tail boom can be folded in order to save parking space onboard the ship.
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has entered the service with PLAN (S/N
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) and is stationed onboard the aircraft carrier Liaoning for crew transportation. In addition an ASW/anti-ship variant (Z-18F) and an AEW variant (Z-18J) have been developed for PLAN.
 
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TK3600

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LOL twenty LHDs for "defense" well if that happens, Taiwan will need to mine its littoral; beaches; roads to interior, and brace for impact
20 LHD is enough for WWIII. This dude is infamously unreliable dont listen to him.
 

abc123

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Number of 071+075 can reach 20.

In 2 decades, I expect Chinese Navy to be at 1 on 1 par with US Pacific ship number (after the "pivot", 60% of USN's assets).

That's something different. In general, ratio of LHDs to LSDs is about 1:2. So if 20 in all, that's about 6-7 Type 075 and 13-14 Type 071.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Eventually China will have their own marine aerial assault brigade but still has to wait for ramp up production of Z20, Z18C ans Z10, Z19 All of them are only recently certified So I guess in the coming years we will see large number of them entered the service. But they have their own strategy So all of you Fan boys hold on your horses and wait! Excerpt from GT. China marine is just now expand. It used to be small only 10,000 marine Now they grow into 20 or 30 thousand and they still wait for heavy lift helicopter. And has not been observed to exercise in corp size assault sofar it only involve small landing exercise on the beach. So it is still has a long way to go
China has a tradition in military development: "It is better to let trained personnel wait for new weapon development than to let weapons that have finished development wait for personnel training," and the development of the Marine Corps' aerial assault forces must go in tandem, if not faster, than the development of the Type 075 and the helicopters, a military expert who asked not to be named told the Global Times on Monday.

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China expands Marine Corps’ aerial assault capabilities following Type 075 ship launch
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2020/4/27 22:04:15
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Amphibious armored vehicles attached to a brigade of the PLA Navy Marine Corps make their way to the beach-head during a maritime amphibious assault training in the west of south China's Guangdong Province on August 17, 2019. (Photo: eng.chinamil.com.cn)

In addition to intensive training, the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy is boosting the aerial assault capabilities of its Marine Corps by systematically expanding it with combat-proven former Army units, a timely move to ready personnel in advance to maximize the power of the two recently launched Type 075 amphibious assault ships, analysts said on Monday.

The Valiant Assault Exemplary Company and the Nianzhuangwei Assault Exemplary Company are now parts of a Marine Corps aerial assault brigade, according to a story published by PLA Daily on April 13.

Both companies won glory during the War of Liberation (1946-49), and they used to be under the command of the Army, but now they have joined the Navy's Marine Corps, Zhengzhijian, a WeChat public account run by Beijing Youth Daily, reported on Friday.

This was a part of an effort to expand China's newly formed Marine Corps, Zhengzhijian said.

The PLA Daily report did not say when the shift took place.

China's second Type 075 amphibious assault ship was launched on Wednesday after the first one was launched in September 2019, and military experts said that aerial assault forces of the Marine Corps are expected to be the core combat forces that use amphibious assault ships.

Beijing-based naval expert Li Jie told the Global Times that amphibious assault ships mainly conduct vertical deployment and landing missions on islands and reefs like the island of Taiwan and those in the South China Sea. These warships with large flat flight decks can transport troops vertically via helicopters much faster than using only horizontal means, Li said.

China has a tradition in military development: "It is better to let trained personnel wait for new weapon development than to let weapons that have finished development wait for personnel training," and the development of the Marine Corps' aerial assault forces must go in tandem, if not faster, than the development of the Type 075 and the helicopters, a military expert who asked not to be named told the Global Times on Monday.

Moving combat capable units into the Marine Corps could be an efficient way to expand its capabilities in a short time, analysts said.

China has been holding intensive training and exercises for the Marine Corps. The troops have not only trained in land and waters across China, but have also used warships and trained across the world, significantly boosting their combat capabilities in all terrain, all dimensions and all times, according to a separate PLA Daily report on Thursday.
 
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weig2000

Captain
20 LHD is enough for WWIII. This dude is infamously unreliable dont listen to him.

He is more of an entertainer than a military commentator. I have never understood why he has a large following fan base in China. His biggest claim to fame is he was the one of the earliest invited military commentators on CCTV and he predicted that the US would be bogged down in a people's war-like quagmire in the Operation Desert Storm.
 
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