055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[AndrewS]

So does that mean the Koreans made a mistake when they put 128 silos on their ddg?

And did the US make a mistake in only putting 96 VLS cells on the Arleigh Burke?
The point is that 112 (larger) VLS cells on a Type-55 is unlikely to be a mistake.

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As for the few Korean AEGIS air defence destroyers, I think they are a vanity project. After all, what would they be used for?

The primary threat is from North Korea on land.
And if it is a China contingency, it's only 350km from mainland China to Incheon/Seoul.

From an air defence perspective, Korea would be better off buying more land-based SAM systems, which are way cheaper and more survivable.
From an offensive weapons perspective, trucks are also a far cheaper and survivable alternative. Even with the individual missiles being somewhat bigger and more expensive, due to the additional distance.

In comparison, the Type-55 would be expected to operate as part of a blue-water navy to contest sea-control.

 

[by78]

Dalian update.

(2048 × 803)

 

[Blitzo]

From what we can get for now it seems has a range of 1000-1500 km. If we take the optimistic end of estimation, it could potentially have a similar strike range of a carrier.

This could open to an option of a new doctrine where carrier focus on reconnaissance and air superiority while fleet strike mission would be given to large surface combatant equipped with these "super missiles".

Also imagine this missile launched from a SSGN which I believe would be a reasonable next step.

At this stage I don't think we have an estimate for what kind of range it may have yet.

 

[Tyler]

I think 112 cells is reasonable, and is unlikely to be a mistake.

Remember that the Arleigh Burkes were designed with a requirement for 96 VLS cells, rather than the 128 cells which were fitted on the Ticonderoga.

And the more recent Zumwalts were designed for only 80 VLS cells.

So if the US Navy decided 128 VLS cells is not necessary for an air defence destroyer, wouldn't the Chinese Navy come to the same conclusion?

The US has the Ticonderoga ddg so that the Arleigh Burkes is sufficient with 96 VLS.
How come the type 055 has 112 VLS, if 96 VLS is enough for the the Arleigh Burkes?

 

[Blitzo]

The US has the Ticonderoga ddg so that the Arleigh Burkes is sufficient with 96 VLS.
How come the type 055 has 112 VLS, if 96 VLS is enough for the the Arleigh Burkes?

How come 96 VLS is enough for Arleigh Burkes if 64 is enough for 052D. How come 052D has 64 if 054A has 32?

Come on, give it a break.

 

[Tyler]

How come 96 VLS is enough for Arleigh Burkes if 64 is enough for 052D. How come 052D has 64 if 054A has 32?

Come on, give it a break.

Is the type 055 supposed to be in the same class as the Ticonderoga?

 

[halflife3]

Does the Type 055 or any other Chinese warship possess the capability to intercept intermediate ballistic missiles like the American Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System?

 

[AndrewS]

The US has the Ticonderoga ddg so that the Arleigh Burkes is sufficient with 96 VLS.
How come the type 055 has 112 VLS, if 96 VLS is enough for the the Arleigh Burkes?

Look at it this way

The Chinese Navy have the following:
Type-55 (112cells)
Type-52D (64cells)

The US Navy currently have:
Ticonderoga (128cells)
Arleigh Burke (96cells)
Zumwalt (80cells)

It's about having a balanced mix of platforms for different needs.

 

[AndrewS]

Does the Type 055 or any other Chinese warship possess the capability to intercept intermediate ballistic missiles like the American Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System?

Given that China is highly unlikely to be on the receiving end of IRBMs, is there any point in spending the time and money?
But theoretically, I don't see any reason why the Type-55 couldn't do so.

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

Is the type 055 supposed to be in the same class as the Ticonderoga?

"Like" means 055 and Tico have similar function and improtance in PLAN and USN.
They fuction as central node of battlefield sensor and command, major provider of surface to air combat firepower in a task fleet.
It doesn't mean they should exactly have same features on everything.