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055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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asif iqbal
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Let’s just say Type 055 is going to be deployed in serious numbers
This is a long term product
2 shipyard are at it day and night
Simultaneously building 2 each with 3rd present in each yard
Popping 1-2 a year maybe even 3 at time once in full swing
This is a game changer
This is a long term product
2 shipyard are at it day and night
Simultaneously building 2 each with 3rd present in each yard
Popping 1-2 a year maybe even 3 at time once in full swing
This is a game changer
Arguably though, during peacetime you would expect the navy to take their time with clearing the commissioning stage. I’m not sure that by itself ought to be indicative of how fast the Navy *can* bring more capability online.
It may have nothing to do with ability to physically finish the ship. It could easily be a crewing issue, where they are waiting to have the crews trained before finishing her. This, frankly, is going to be an issue across the PLAN. China has never run this many ships before and getting all the officers, enlisted and everything else in place is going to take a while.
asif iqbal
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Honestly I wouldn’t mind even if it was half as slow
Commissioning is the crucial part, Sea trials , shake down debugging and ironing out technicality’s
Training training training
All of that takes time and slower they do that the better
Overall they are doing great RN Type 45 DDG need holes cut into them to fix engine issues years after they they were commissioned!!
plawolf
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As I have said many times before, the PLAN’s current mass expansion is as much about helping the shipyards in the face of weak global commercial orders as it about pure operational needs of the PLAN.
The rate of production and orders are mostly determined by the needs of the shipyards to avoid laying off high trained and experienced workers.
Key systems manufacturers would have far less glut in capacity, and China would be loathed to invest the huge sums needed to expand capacity in those fields to match the output speed of the shipyards, since the current rate of PLAN fleet expansion is only supposed to be a temporary sprint, and would be unsustainable in the long run. So Beijing expects the rate of production and fleet expansion to drop off eventually, thus do not want to create overcapacity in other support industries.
The rate of production and orders are mostly determined by the needs of the shipyards to avoid laying off high trained and experienced workers.
Key systems manufacturers would have far less glut in capacity, and China would be loathed to invest the huge sums needed to expand capacity in those fields to match the output speed of the shipyards, since the current rate of PLAN fleet expansion is only supposed to be a temporary sprint, and would be unsustainable in the long run. So Beijing expects the rate of production and fleet expansion to drop off eventually, thus do not want to create overcapacity in other support industries.
asif iqbal
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DL showing 2 x Type 055 and 1 x Type 052D
3rd x Type 055 or 6th overall
3rd x Type 055 or 6th overall
Indeed, not to mention the ships are necessary to absorb all that surplus of government subsidized steel which is going to be taxed in the US soon.
This also explains the surge of corvette and frigate production since smaller warships is also about subsidizing the smaller yards that can't make the bigger ships. And for that matter, the production of smaller warships is also about the efficient utilization of available shipyard capacity, which many are also small shipyards. If you have many small yards in your country, you are going to end up building warships that will fit inside them. Its also something I considered why China does not plan to make 6000 ton frigates --- it would require the same yards that do those 6000 to 8000 ton destroyers. But 4000 ton frigates are another thing, you can build them in smaller sheltered docks, along with the corvettes, auxilliaries, tugs, coast guard and patrol vessels.
Lethe
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You can't (or rather, shouldn't) subsidise yards indefinitely. This is not 2009. Today we are probably closer to the next global economic crisis than the preceding one. If the shipyards can't stand on their own two feet, then there are too many shipyards. We are not exactly talking about saving the last major yards in the nation to maintain strategically sensitive skillsets.
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