YJ-83, same as 054A.
054B/new generation frigate
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YJ-83, same as 054A.
Definitely YJ-12, not YJ-83.
Where did you hear that? They look exactly like YJ-83 launchers to me. Here's the new 054B:
Here's the old 054A:
Also reported as such in the NN piece:
And on Guancha:
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Look at the top view:
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What am I supposed to be seeing here? A stitched-together photo of two different ships in two different contexts? You didn't even include any annotations or pixel measurements.
I'm not seeing any evidence at all, much less enough evidence to warrant your "definitely YJ-12."
Besides the fact that the missile cannisters in the comparison photo are of pretty much the same length (with any minute differences being subject to the difference in angles and height of the cameras at which the photos were taken), the photo-quality of the close-up views are much better (and frankly, more authoritative) than the top-down view.
Also, here's what the YJ-12 missile canister actually looks like on a Tughril (054AP) FFG. Beyond the obvious cover design differences between the YJ-83 and YJ-12 missile cannisters, the YJ-12 missile cannisters are visibly much longer than the YJ-83 missile cannisters. There's also the blast deflectors located right behind the YJ-83 missile cannisters on the 054A/AG/Bs, which are completely absent on the 054APs.
And here are the same YJ-12 missile cannisters on the post-refit 051B DDG Shenzhen:
This means that the YJ-12 missile cannisters are of the same design across different warship classes. Therefore, the 054B is certainly armed with YJ-83s, not YJ-12s.
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lcloo
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Most likely FIFO. i.e. First In First Out. PLAN has to use all existing stocks of the older CIWS 1130 before they use latest version. As for aircraft carrier, they are capital ships that deserve priority to have latest version regardless of the warehouse inventory of CIWS 1130.
CIWS 1130 is a common gun platform for many classes of PLAN ships, thus purchasing them in a few dozens in advance of ship building progress is not unlikely.
Makes sense. Kind of annoyed they couldn't repurpose the leftover old 1130 stocks to land CRAM use or something though. Likely means there isn't that big of a capability/Pk sacrifice anyway compared to the newest version.
The land CRAM version needs its own search radar on top of the parabolic tracking radar. So still a similar tradeoff.
The angles of both ships look just about exactly the same. Plus, this is not exactly a small difference:
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