054B/new generation frigate

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Albatross

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There is something I'm trying to understand.
054A: 4000 ton
054B: 6000 ton

The 054B got a nice AESA radar, but they both got the same weapon, 32 VLS and 8x slanted launcher for antiship missiles.
What 054B got more over 054A to get that 50% tonnage increase?
I don't understand. Can someone clarify?
Why do you think of a bigger displacement as a negative? Blue water navies prefer bigger ships because they allow more range/endurance, speed, accommodations, bigger sensors, better propulsion systems and list goes on and on. 6000 ton is completely normal for a blue water frigate nowadays.
 

grulle

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anyone remember how long it took CCTV to get a shot of the mid VLS of the first 055 after it was launched? I think the best bet would be waiting for a CCTV report on the 054B, maybe at a commissioning ceremony. But given it's only a frigate, there might not be any media coverage at all.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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anyone remember how long it took CCTV to get a shot of the mid VLS of the first 055 after it was launched? I think the best bet would be waiting for a CCTV report on the 054B, maybe at a commissioning ceremony. But given it's only a frigate, there might not be any media coverage at all.
If anything can be taken as reference, I believe that would be the 26th 052D DDG, i.e. Dazhou.

That 052D was launched in late-December last year, and began her sea trials in late-October this year. That's around 10 months in between.

So I suppose 10 months it is. Probably less, probably not. Will have to wait and see.
 

sr338

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Why do you think of a bigger displacement as a negative? Blue water navies prefer bigger ships because they allow more range/endurance, speed, accommodations, bigger sensors, better propulsion systems and list goes on and on. 6000 ton is completely normal for a blue water frigate nowadays.

Bigger displacement is not a negative in itself, but a different radar mast and helicopter doesn't justify the 054B being 50% larger than 054A.
 

GiantPanda

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Bigger displacement is not a negative in itself, but a different radar mast and helicopter doesn't justify the 054B being 50% larger than 054A.

Increased range of operation, weapons and sensors most certainly does.

Larger vessel invariably means room for bigger combat radius, a greater envelope for detection and an extended reach with bigger weapons.
 

gelgoog

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Do we have any information on the propulsion of this ship? Given the huge increase in displacement they must have changed it.

PS: Looks like it uses four diesel engines of this type:
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1. Rated power: 7280kW (propulsion)/6400kW (power generation)
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3. Fuel consumption: ≤197g/kWh (propulsion)/195g/kWh (power generation)
4. Emissions: IMO Tier II"
 
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