Yeah come on. 8 x YJ-12 and 8 x UVLS for whatever they want in the future and it will be perfect
054B/new generation frigate
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A perfect example is ...Turkish - AS 3600 (conceptional design - 3600tns with 64-cell VLS, 16xSSM, RAM PDMS)
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can you guys imagine if the 054B really had a middle VLS, total 48 or even 64 VLS. LOL that would be so badass. add to the fact that China will pump them out like dumplings. this is just insane. the future for China's navy is so incredibly bright.
You gain some, you lose some.
Trying to cramp 16 AShMs and 64 VLS into a frigate-sized hull means that the overall functionalities will be comparably limited than other warships with similar weapon-type loadouts, but with larger dimensions and heavier displacements.
How else are they going to fit all those weapon systems on a frigate-sized hull at below 4000 tons of displacement, and expect it to perform like how a 7000-ton destroyer would perform - And that for long-range expeditionary operations in the vast expanses of the Pacific? That's only going to end up even more unrealistic and unfeasible the more things go this way.
Besides, today's China isn't as 捉襟见肘 as many other countries around the world. This is because due to limited budget, industrial strength, supporting facilities and manpower, all those countries can only procure a few warships for their navies - Such that they must make sure that every one of their warships can shoulder all the roles required for a functional navy, which is otherwise better performed amongst separate platforms and ship types. In the end, they end up with warships that can do everything, but mostly only mediocrely.
On the other hand, China definitely is able to serial-build the 054Bs (which significantly excels in the ASW domain, plus also having credible AAW capability), just like how they built the 054As for the past two decades. We need to understand that China is well-equipped with the necessary financial and industrial prowess, supporting infrastructures and capabilities, alongside a massive manpower pool to enable the build-up of a much larger, more distributed and much more capable navy.
Therefore, China has no need for a warship with destroyer-like capabilities on a frigate-sized hull. Those roles can be shouldered by the 052D/DLs and 055s, both of which are available in large numbers as well.
In a nutshell:
For many other countries, 1 + 1 = 2 is true.
For China, 1 + 1 > 2 is true.
Trying to cramp 16 AShMs and 64 VLS into a frigate-sized hull means that the overall functionalities will be comparably limited than other warships with similar weapon-type loadouts, but with larger dimensions and heavier displacements.
How else are they going to fit all those weapon systems on a frigate-sized hull at below 4000 tons of displacement, and expect it to perform like how a 7000-ton destroyer would perform - And that for long-range expeditionary operations in the vast expanses of the Pacific? That's only going to end up even more unrealistic and unfeasible the more things go this way.
Besides, today's China isn't as 捉襟见肘 as many other countries around the world. This is because due to limited budget, industrial strength, supporting facilities and manpower, all those countries can only procure a few warships for their navies - Such that they must make sure that every one of their warships can shoulder all the roles required for a functional navy, which is otherwise better performed amongst separate platforms and ship types. In the end, they end up with warships that can do everything, but mostly only mediocrely.
On the other hand, China definitely is able to serial-build the 054Bs (which significantly excels in the ASW domain, plus also having credible AAW capability), just like how they built the 054As for the past two decades. We need to understand that China is well-equipped with the necessary financial and industrial prowess, supporting infrastructures and capabilities, alongside a massive manpower pool to enable the build-up of a much larger, more distributed and much more capable navy.
Therefore, China has no need for a warship with destroyer-like capabilities on a frigate-sized hull. Those roles can be shouldered by the 052D/DLs and 055s, both of which are available in large numbers as well.
In a nutshell:
For many other countries, 1 + 1 = 2 is true.
For China, 1 + 1 > 2 is true.
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That model is not to be taken seriously. The proportions are all wrong.
Sounds reasonable for a 4k ton FFG, but 054B is in a 6k ton league, where it's hull can comfortably support 64 UVLS + 8/16 AShM without suffering performance degradation. However, once again, we are discussing hypothetical possibilities, and it is now quite evident that PLAN did not pursue that path.
High-resolution images of good clarity.
What is that blueish container behind the main mast?
Is that just a temporary item ?
Thank you in advance.
Do the additional vents (in black boxes) suggest it may not be the same as 054A?
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