054/A FFG Thread II

[para80]

So where is this idea that 054AP will carry CM-401 coming from? From looking at the launchers, they seem a lot like YJ-12 ones to me (not like YJ-83 ones).

 

[iantsai]

Hi guys, one question. What is the diameter of the VLS of 054A? thanks

Type 054A is equipped with four H/AKJ-16 VLS units which is 8 cells(650*650mm each) per unit, compatible with HHQ-16 SAM, Yu-8 rocket propelled torpedo.

H/AKJ-16 is different from the general VLS equipped on 052D, which is 850*850mm size and capable of launching many types of shipborne missiles.

 

[sndef888]

Type 054A is equipped with four H/AKJ-16 VLS units which is 8 cells(650*650mm each) per unit, compatible with HHQ-16 SAM, Yu-8 rocket propelled torpedo.

H/AKJ-16 is different from the general VLS equipped on 052D, which is 850*850mm size and capable of launching many types of shipborne missiles.

There really is no excuse for the PLA still not having a quadpackable MRSAM when it has a massive 850mm VLS.

 

[Blitzo]

There really is no excuse for the PLA still not having a quadpackable MRSAM when it has a massive 850mm VLS.

Well, apart from the fact that developing a new weapon takes time, money and resources.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the quadpackable 3-5 missile is in advanced stages of development or even in service already. But let's not get carried away and think that just because a VLS is intended to be capable of carrying a quad packable SAM, means that such a weapon would be instantaneously available and in service.

 

[Jiang ZeminFanboy]

Well, apart from the fact that developing a new weapon takes time, money and resources.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the quadpackable 3-5 missile is in advanced stages of development or even in service already. But let's not get carried away and think that just because a VLS is intended to be capable of carrying a quad packable SAM, means that such a weapon would be instantaneously available and in service.

We have a photo at Zhuhai, so China may have now quadpackable SAM. But I read some comments that were saying that PLAN is not keen for that kind of SAM to employ, because the SAM would have lower power and range at the terminal stage.

 

[blindsight]

We have a photo at Zhuhai, so China may have now quadpackable SAM. But I read some comments that were saying that PLAN is not keen for that kind of SAM to employ, because the SAM would have lower power and range at the terminal stage.

I kinda feel the 555's already been in service. Anyway, it fits perfectly well in between the HQ-9 and the HQ-10.

 

[Blitzo]

We have a photo at Zhuhai, so China may have now quadpackable SAM. But I read some comments that were saying that PLAN is not keen for that kind of SAM to employ, because the SAM would have lower power and range at the terminal stage.

What do you mean "that kind of SAM"?

Do you mean quadpackable MR SAMs? Because we have very high confidence they are pursuing such a weapon, the 3-5 missile that everyone's been referring to.


As for FM3000N at Zhuhai, we do not know if that is the 3-5 missile the PLAN are developing. I personally am skeptical.

 

[5unrise]

What do you mean "that kind of SAM"?

Do you mean quadpackable MR SAMs? Because we have very high confidence they are pursuing such a weapon, the 3-5 missile that everyone's been referring to.


As for FM3000N at Zhuhai, we do not know if that is the 3-5 missile the PLAN are developing. I personally am skeptical.

Just want to understand, are the quad pack missiles intended for medium or long range?
Looking at the pictures, they seem to be short range SAM missiles. If true, they would be useful for self defence, and it would be worth carrying some of them, but it would have limited value in area air defence (defending other ships). Maybe that's what the OP was referring to. PLAN might want more assets with area AA.

 

[AndrewS]

Just want to understand, are the quad pack missiles intended for medium or long range?
Looking at the pictures, they seem to be short range SAM missiles. If true, they would be useful for self defence, and it would be worth carrying some of them, but it would have limited value in area air defence (defending other ships). Maybe that's what the OP was referring to. PLAN might want more assets with area AA.

Definitely medium range.

There's no point using an expensive long-range HQ-9 if the incoming missiles are close enough to have already crossed the radar horizon

 

[Blitzo]

Just want to understand, are the quad pack missiles intended for medium or long range?
Looking at the pictures, they seem to be short range SAM missiles. If true, they would be useful for self defence, and it would be worth carrying some of them, but it would have limited value in area air defence (defending other ships). Maybe that's what the OP was referring to. PLAN might want more assets with area AA.

Medium range: up to 50km.

I have no idea what he meant, which is why I'm asking.

The idea that the PLAN would be uninterested in a 50km range quadpackable SAM seems an odd position to take, especially given modern proliferated guidance systems available.