054/A FFG Thread II

kurutoga

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PLAN shouldn't have used 5xx series numbers for the 056s in the first place.

In any case, with numbers and timing of 054B nailed down, PLAN's future frigate force is becoming clearer. By 2030 PLAN will have:

20x 054B
30x 054A
2x 054
10x 053H3

Total 62 frigates. Could go as low as 55 if 053H3 retirements are accelerated, or as high as 70 if 054B production is both rapid and either extended or followed immediately by 054C/057 in late 2020s.

After 599 there is a new hull of 054A that does not have number assigned. LOL
 

Tam

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Never found any information about the internal structure of the H/APJ-16 VLS until this one, which was part of a defense exhibit.

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Found more pictures of the new phase array radar under development. It was originally thought to be part of Type 055 testing, but all Type 346 radar testing has been done embedded within a superstructure and not on a rotating stalk. It also appears connected to the LY-80N, and thus maybe a Type 382 successor, although MR710 has never been particular in what missile is supports, since its also found with S-300 applications (see Type 051C).

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The panel beneath the main array is likely to be for IFF transponders.
 

Iron Man

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Never found any information about the internal structure of the H/APJ-16 VLS until this one, which was part of a defense exhibit.
Most interesting of all would be information on the internal dimensions of each cell.

The panel beneath the main array is likely to be for IFF transponders.
Combining rotation hardware for the radar and IFF could be problematic in certain situations, such as if the radar needs to stop rotating and focus on a certain quadrant. I know this is a feature found on the AWACS radar.
 

Totoro

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I am getting 23 pixels of missile model diameter and 47 pixels of width of the cell. If missile body is 0.34 m wide at that point, (as ly80 system is credited with) then the cell width would be around 0.69 m. Sylver VLS is allegedly 0.56 m, mk41 is allegedly 0.64 m. Of course, lets keep in mind measurement can't be precise as the image isn't clear and, perhaps more importantly, it's a model. Meaning the actual sizes may not be very precisely depicted.
 

FORBIN

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I am getting 23 pixels of missile model diameter and 47 pixels of width of the cell. If missile body is 0.34 m wide at that point, (as ly80 system is credited with) then the cell width would be around 0.69 m. Sylver VLS is allegedly 0.56 m, mk41 is allegedly 0.64 m. Of course, lets keep in mind measurement can't be precise as the image isn't clear and, perhaps more importantly, it's a model. Meaning the actual sizes may not be very precisely depicted.
Exact very dificult but cellule size for Mk-41 is to 55 cm, Sylver 56 yes and Mk-57 71 cm
For HHQ-16 cellule i have about 60 cm one have better info ? and HQ-16 body 34 cm
 

Iron Man

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Interesting photos. I'm not sure what the advantages of using either the cylindrical or rectangular canisters are.
 

Totoro

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This is idiotic, to put round canisters into square cells. More so because it is a hot launched missile, so there is no reason why extra space in the corners can't be used. Yet it is obviously not used.
 
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