052C/052D Class Destroyers

Jono

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For a complete novice like me, the watertight doors in these videos (with round corners, some painted brown, some white), look somewhat similar (stressing the somewhat) to the non watertight doors (with square corners, mostly painted brown); especially when compared to a western watertigher doors which are much more oval (told you I am a novice).

This is my long-winded way of saying I agree with Blitzo's advise of givng Xavier the benefit of the doubt; that Xavier may be more of a naval novice like me, despite him running a naval news site :)

Ciao.

For a complete novice like me, the watertight doors in these videos (with round corners, some painted brown, some white), look somewhat similar (stressing the somewhat) to the non watertight doors (with square corners, mostly painted brown); especially when compared to a western watertigher doors which are much more oval (told you I am a novice).

This is my long-winded way of saying I agree with Blitzo's advise of givng Xavier the benefit of the doubt; that Xavier may be more of a naval novice like me, despite him running a naval news site :)

Ciao.
still cannot explain how he has missed all the firefighting equipment.
 

Blitzo

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Alright, let's stop the jokes, personal remarks/jibes.

If there are any actual constructive commentaries to be made on the specific topic in a way which is actually new and relevant, then it can be done, but do not use it as a means for making statements of a personal nature.
Any further posts of this nature or inclusive of those traits, will be deleted.

If you're wondering where the line is, then do the simple thing and just don't post it.
 

supersnoop

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Maybe the western ships have more of these double watertight doors due to organizational inertia? Something like “No one gets fired for buying IBM” (or I guess Lenovo now?)

Maybe you “overdesign” certain corridors because that’s how it’s always been done. Japan and SK are US allies, so they follow the example.

China has the most shipbuilding capacity (and therefore parts), putting in more doors would mean a negligible increase in cost or production time (no matter how cheap the PLA might be). I also imagine that computer aided design and damage control modelling was used to validate design choices.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Maybe the western ships have more of these double watertight doors due to organizational inertia? Something like “No one gets fired for buying IBM” (or I guess Lenovo now?)

Maybe you “overdesign” certain corridors because that’s how it’s always been done. Japan and SK are US allies, so they follow the example.

China has the most shipbuilding capacity (and therefore parts), putting in more doors would mean a negligible increase in cost or production time (no matter how cheap the PLA might be). I also imagine that computer aided design and damage control modelling was used to verify design choices.
he meant airlocks. airlocks are fucking hard to open because they have a screw mechanism instead of a simple deadbolt, and because you need to open 2 sets of doors at once. the fuck you need an airlock in the superstructure for??? if your ship has sunk to the degree where your radars are underwater, there's already no reserve buoyancy remaining.
 

HereToSeePics

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the *** you need an airlock in the superstructure for???

I would imagine there would be an airlock for each critical section of the ship in the event of a NCB incident. All other doors/hatches would be sealed and the airlocks used as the primary passageway until the hazard is neutralized. Superstructure contains the bridge and other critical command/control areas, so having an airlock to isolate those areas seems reasonable.
 

supersnoop

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I would imagine there would be an airlock for each critical section of the ship in the event of a NCB incident. All other doors/hatches would be sealed and the airlocks used as the primary passageway until the hazard is neutralized. Superstructure contains the bridge and other critical command/control areas, so having an airlock to isolate those areas seems reasonable.

The question is whether the parts he visited are those critical areas. There could easily be airlock type doors further in (not accessible to the public)

To put what I was saying before in another way. It could be that the Western and Western-derived designs have the airlock type doors even in not-so-critical areas because "that's the way we've always done it". This is what I suspect his impression could be coming from. Anyone with engineering experience knows its easier not to change something rather than change it.
 
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