052C/052D Class Destroyers
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How interesting... I wonder how much of the ship Xavier had access to as a member of the public. I think it was likely very limited. Even so, I'm not sure Xavier was being entirely honest. He said he was "walking from the helicopter deck to inside the vessel" and saw a boat (must have been the rigid inflatable boat) and then torpedo launchers. This means that he entered the ship from a door next to the aft helicopter hangar and then walked forward toward the bow. I happen to have footage of this same path taken by a Chinese journalist, and the footage contradicts Xavier's account. See screenshots below.
Here's the Chinese journalist entering a 052D through the watertight door located next to the helicopter hangar.
Immediately he arrives at the rigid inflatable boat (RIB) Xavier talked about, but I see no gas tanks Xavier mentioned. What's that I see in the immediate vicinity of the RIB? Firefighting equipment and breathing apparatuses for the crew to prevent smoke inhalation! How did Xaiver miss those? The torpedo launchers lie some distance ahead of the RIB, and they are separated from the RIB by two sets of partitions. In other words, there is no direct and unimpeded line of sight between the RIB and the torpedos. There is also additional firefighting equipment right next to the torpedo launchers, as well as a second watertight door. How did Xavier not remember seeing this second watertight door and all that firefighting equipment along the way?
As the Chinese journalist walks further ahead towards the bow, he encounters more watertight doors and firefighting equipment along the way, as well as more breathing apparatuses. I wonder if Xavier actually made it this far on his tour, or maybe he simply chose not to remember.
Even the uppermost deck of the ship features watertight/weathertight doors. Here we see the journalist exit through two sets of watertight doors that lead to the open deck next to the bridge (red circled part in the photo immediately below). In between these two sets of watertight doors lies a cabin, which is also sealed by a watertight door.
In conclusion, I think it's safe to say that Xavier either has a very faulty memory or very faulty objectivity, or both.
P.S. Mr. Xavier Vavasseur, if you are reading this, I'd like to hear from you on what you make of my thoughts. Am I being unfair? If you're visually impaired, please accept my apologies.
Very thorough compilation of images, good job. May be worth making an album (flickr, or imgur or something) with your written commentary saved if that's possible, to enable easy linking if needed.
I had posted it a few months ago in this thread:
052C/052D Class Destroyers
^It could also suggest a political settlement in the works behind the scenes with respect to territorial claims.
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This tour is of 124 Kaifeng, I'd assume 162 Nanning should be the same.
The official media live broadcast of the Chinese Navy's Open Day on April 22 this year, showcasing the front and rear decks and interior of the 052D Kaifeng.
Front deck: 【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 01:00】
Interior:【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 09:06】
Rear deck: 【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 14:43】
Front deck: 【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 01:00】
Interior:【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 09:06】
Rear deck: 【干货满满|舰艇开放日中国军号讲解直播录屏1】 【精准空降到 14:43】
Dumb question...
In the video (as well as other videos), I see a lot of "doors" that look like my home's interior room doors (e.g the door into the ship's exercise room).
Are those doors not water-tight door?
If if they are not water-tight, does it simply mean that those rooms or compartments are not meant to be watertight?
Thanks for everyone's responses in advance.
Complete ownage. You exposed him for the liar he is.How interesting... I wonder how much of the ship Xavier had access to as a member of the public. I think it was likely very limited. Even so, I'm not sure Xavier was being entirely honest. He said he was "walking from the helicopter deck to inside the vessel" and saw a boat (must have been the rigid inflatable boat) and then torpedo launchers. This means that he entered the ship from a door next to the aft helicopter hangar and then walked forward toward the bow. I happen to have footage of this same path taken by a Chinese journalist, and the footage contradicts Xavier's account. See screenshots below.
Here's the Chinese journalist entering a 052D through the watertight door located next to the helicopter hangar.
Immediately he arrives at the rigid inflatable boat (RIB) Xavier talked about, but I see no gas tanks Xavier mentioned. What's that I see in the immediate vicinity of the RIB? Firefighting equipment and breathing apparatuses for the crew to prevent smoke inhalation! How did Xaiver miss those? The torpedo launchers lie some distance ahead of the RIB, and they are separated from the RIB by two sets of partitions. In other words, there is no direct and unimpeded line of sight between the RIB and the torpedos. There is also additional firefighting equipment right next to the torpedo launchers, as well as a second watertight door. How did Xavier not remember seeing this second watertight door and all that firefighting equipment along the way?
As the Chinese journalist walks further ahead towards the bow, he encounters more watertight doors and firefighting equipment along the way, as well as more breathing apparatuses. I wonder if Xavier actually made it this far on his tour, or maybe he simply chose not to remember.
Even the uppermost deck of the ship features watertight/weathertight doors. Here we see the journalist exit through two sets of watertight doors that lead to the open deck next to the bridge (red circled part in the photo immediately below). In between these two sets of watertight doors lies a cabin, which is also sealed by a watertight door.
In conclusion, I think it's safe to say that Xavier either has a very faulty memory or very faulty objectivity, or both.
P.S. Mr. Xavier Vavasseur, if you are reading this, I'd like to hear from you on what you make of my thoughts. Am I being unfair? If you're visually impaired, please accept my apologies.
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