052C/052D Class Destroyers

Blitzo

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vincent

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I'd be interested to hear what the likes of pop3 et al would have to say, not because I necessarily doubt Xavier's observations of having seen past ships of other navies, but I am skeptical the differences would be that stark.
Firefighting training starts at 2:30

Firefighting exercise on 055

on Shangdong

Firefighting equipment in the hallways on Shangdong
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There were only some fire extinguishers on the main level
unknown deck, fire hydrant
 
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Blitzo

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Firefighting training starts at 2:30

Firefighting exercise on 055

on Shangdong

There were only some fire extinguishers on the main level
unknown deck, fire hydrant

Yeah, dude I'm well aware of those clips lol, and nowhere did I say that the PLAN doesn't train for and invest in damage control and firefighting.

They don't change the fact that I'd be interested to know how the actual insider's like pop3 would comment on Xavier's views, if they could contextualise them such as whether there's anything relating to PLAN open house practices, nature and geometry of PLAN watertight doors etc.
 

Maikeru

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That is a serious fatal flaw for just about any ship, any navy.

If this is actually the case for PLAN, then - What the actual fvck?!

Countless lessons from WW2, and little to nothing was learnt??!

Yeah, dude I'm well aware of those clips lol, and nowhere did I say that the PLAN doesn't train for and invest in damage control and firefighting.

They don't change the fact that I'd be interested to know how the actual insider's like pop3 would comment on Xavier's views, if they could contextualise them such as whether there's anything relating to PLAN open house practices, nature and geometry of PLAN watertight doors etc.
It did seem that the watertight doors on the 055 in those videos were singletons as opposed to the double doors Xavier said he had seen on other nations' ships.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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It did seem that the watertight doors on the 055 in those videos were singletons as opposed to the double doors Xavier said he had seen on other nations' ships.
But - Why did PLAN designers choose single over double? Shouldn't double watertight doors be better than single on warships, especially considering the susceptibility to battle damage during wartime?
 

Blitzo

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It did seem that the watertight doors on the 055 in those videos were singletons as opposed to the double doors Xavier said he had seen on other nations' ships.

I am more confused that he suggested the doors inside the ship were not watertight with at all inside the ship, at 31:55.

I assume he is talking about the brown painted metal doors we've seen inside PLAN ships, but I've never walked away from viewing them as perceiving them as not watertight by design.

But - Why did PLAN designers choose single over double? Shouldn't double watertight doors be better than single on warships, especially considering the susceptibility to battle damage during wartime?

If people really want to get down in the weeds for this, I think having some examples of what they're talking about would help first.
 
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