052C/052D Class Destroyers

sndef888

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It looks pretty F Ued. It now calls the rear radar Type 518, instead of the Type 517M designation people have been using. Type 518 used to be the L-band search radar with a parabolic antenna on the old pre-refit Type 052, not going to look like anything close to the Type 517.

The Type 052C wiki entry has been revised to get all the radar designations correct.

Chinese wiki entry for Type 052D is much better.

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An important change is that the Type 347G radar for the CIWS is now Type 349. Differences between Type 347G, Type 348 and Type 349 is as follows.

Type 347 --- Has a conical antenna with the tip chopped for a flat surface.
Type 348 --- Has much of the cone chopped away so it resembles the Type 344 gun fire control radar.
Type 349 --- The antenna is shaped like a cone. In other words, this is more like a miniature version of the Thales STIR.

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Type 349 radar is a fire-control radar for
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developed by
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, also known as Xi’an Research Institute of Navigation Technology (西安导航技术研究所), with the Chinese naval designation of H/LJP-349.
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In addition to CIWS, Some models of Type 349 is also used to control larger caliber guns.

Type 349 radar is frequently but erroneously referred by many as either
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, because externally, all three radars look very similar, and all three are developed as fire control radar for small caliber guns. In reality, the three radars are different and they can be easily distinguished by the following features: When electro-optics (EO) are integrated with radar, EO is installed on the portside of Type 347 radar antenna, but for Type 348 and Type 349, EO is installed on the starboard side of the radar antenna. Furthermore, when incorporated as part of
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, Type 349 is slaved to Type 730 CIWS gun and thus does not rotate, because the gun rotates when searching/tracking. In contrast, Type 348 is not slaved to the Type 76 37mm twin guns, but instead, installed separately from the gun mounts, and thus Type 348 rotates when searching/tracking.
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The shape of antenna is also an important visual cue to distinguish three radars. The tip of Type 349 radar is a conical, which is missing on Type 347. Instead, the tip of Type 347 radar antenna is a small circular flat surface, missing the tip of the cone. The antenna of Type 348 radar differs from both Type 347 and Type 349 radars in that most of the cone is missing, only the base remains, so the antenna of Type 348 radar has a very large circular flat surface, resulting in Type 348 radar resembles a scaled down version of another larger fire control radar for larger caliber guns (76 mm or greater),
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Several models of Type 349 radars have been deployed by PLAN, with the first and most widely used version as the one installed on Type 730 CIWS. Another model used to control larger caliber guns is installed separately from the gun mount and rotates when searching/tracking. A derivative
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can control both the small and larger caliber guns.
Damn it's been 3 years and the specs on wiki are still f'ed
 

by78

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Just a nice image.

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HereToSeePics

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Launch YJ-18 Anti-ship supersonic missile from Type-052D and Type-052DL

Fireworks start at 1m25s - I think this is the first time I've seen publicly released video of PLAN antiship missiles hitting a target ship of substantial size. Pretty immense kinetic energy judging by how far debris and sprawl got ejected forward immediately after impact (1m30s)
 

Tam

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Fireworks start at 1m25s - I think this is the first time I've seen publicly released video of PLAN antiship missiles hitting a target ship of substantial size. Pretty immense kinetic energy judging by how far debris and sprawl got ejected forward immediately after impact (1m30s)

The target might have been pennant 882 Poyanghu, a retired Type 905 tanker, displacement roughly around 20,000 tons.
 

LCR34

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Fireworks start at 1m25s - I think this is the first time I've seen publicly released video of PLAN antiship missiles hitting a target ship of substantial size. Pretty immense kinetic energy judging by how far debris and sprawl got ejected forward immediately after impact (1m30s)
What was the 2nd impact? It seems the explosion is smaller.
 

Tam

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What was the 2nd impact? It seems the explosion is smaller.

Those might have been inert warheads. This allows the target ship to be reused as a target over and over for the rest of the drill by other ships and planes involved in the exercise. If the ship didn't sink, and I don't think it did, they can tow it back to examine for forensic damage. The explosion would only have been from the impact and the rapid compression and detonation of the unspent solid rocket fuel in the missile.
 

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Add 2 more... Zhanjiang reincarnation.

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The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy has commissioned two new Type 052D destroyers, the Zhanjiang and the Jiaozuo, official reports revealed on Tuesday. More ships of this class have likely also recently entered naval service or are about to, said observers.

After the decommissioning of the old Zhanjiang,
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, in August 2020, the new Zhanjiang, a new-generation destroyer with the same hull number as the old ship, entered service more than a year later, the PLA Daily reported on Tuesday.

This is the first time the new Zhanjiang has been reported in an official PLA publication.

While the PLA Daily did not specify the type of the new Zhanjiang, the description of it being "a new-generation destroyer" and speculation by foreign media outlet Naval News in January suggest that the ship is likely of the Type 052D.

The same PLA Daily report on Tuesday also mentioned a warship embarking on a voyage, but the report did not give further details, including the type of the ship or the time and the location of the voyage.

This indicates that the Jiaozuo has also been commissioned, analysts said.

On January 30, local newspaper the Jiaozuo Daily reported that sailors abroad the Jiaozuo sent their Spring Festival greetings to the people in Jiaozuo.

The video report by the Jiaozuo Daily indicates that the Jiaozuo is a Type 052D destroyer, and according to the ship's badge shown in the report, the hull number of the ship is 163.

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Based on the general pattern of ship construction and past experiences, it would take about two years for a destroyer to enter service after launch, so the remaining Type 052Ds that have been launched are likely already also in service, or are about to be enlisted soon, a Chinese military expert told the Global Times on Wednesday, requesting anonymity.
 
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