052C/052D Class Destroyers

antiterror13

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Bye bye Sasebo. All images are high-resolution.

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The VLS cells do look rectangular? are they?, I thought should be square ?

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Tam

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Yes I saw the difference between top drawing and the bottom, my problem was trying to spot the difference between the middle and bottom. So difference in CIWS and the APAR Panels, was hard to spot in the drawings from a quick glance.

If you go back the drawing, there is another line that darkens the bottom of the APAR panel, this is for the boom like calibration probe. The 1130 has a circle on it which is indicative of a second drum, but the 730 does not have this circle.

Newer ships have this part changed. Previous 052D the shape is cylindrical. The drawings did not catch this.

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Tam

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Pics via LKJ86 at the PDF.

155 is the unit that I said is a hybrid between the original batch and the second batch. It features the 346A panel of the second batch, but still has the ESM and Type 730 of the older batch. 161 on the other hand is much like 131, it has the 1130 CIWS, the new ESM unit and the new 346A panels.


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Tam

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Via LKJ86 at the PDF.

This 052D is one of those with the extended helo deck and the new meshy VHF antenna. Another way to distinguish this variant is the larger SATCOM has been moved from beneath and front of the VHF antenna to on top of the hanger. The HQ-10 is raised to compensate for clearing this SATCOM.


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AndrewS

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I've just noticed on Wikipedia that the Type-52D entry is now listing COGAG propulsion instead of CODOG.

Has someone been playing silly buggers?
 

Tam

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I've just noticed on Wikipedia that the Type-52D entry is now listing COGAG propulsion instead of CODOG.

Has someone been playing silly buggers?


It looks pretty F Ued. It now calls the rear radar Type 518, instead of the Type 517M designation people have been using. Type 518 used to be the L-band search radar with a parabolic antenna on the old pre-refit Type 052, not going to look like anything close to the Type 517.

The Type 052C wiki entry has been revised to get all the radar designations correct.

Chinese wiki entry for Type 052D is much better.

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An important change is that the Type 347G radar for the CIWS is now Type 349. Differences between Type 347G, Type 348 and Type 349 is as follows.

Type 347 --- Has a conical antenna with the tip chopped for a flat surface.
Type 348 --- Has much of the cone chopped away so it resembles the Type 344 gun fire control radar.
Type 349 --- The antenna is shaped like a cone. In other words, this is more like a miniature version of the Thales STIR.

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Type 349 radar is a fire-control radar for
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developed by
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, also known as Xi’an Research Institute of Navigation Technology (西安导航技术研究所), with the Chinese naval designation of H/LJP-349.
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In addition to CIWS, Some models of Type 349 is also used to control larger caliber guns.

Type 349 radar is frequently but erroneously referred by many as either
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or
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, because externally, all three radars look very similar, and all three are developed as fire control radar for small caliber guns. In reality, the three radars are different and they can be easily distinguished by the following features: When electro-optics (EO) are integrated with radar, EO is installed on the portside of Type 347 radar antenna, but for Type 348 and Type 349, EO is installed on the starboard side of the radar antenna. Furthermore, when incorporated as part of
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, Type 349 is slaved to Type 730 CIWS gun and thus does not rotate, because the gun rotates when searching/tracking. In contrast, Type 348 is not slaved to the Type 76 37mm twin guns, but instead, installed separately from the gun mounts, and thus Type 348 rotates when searching/tracking.
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The shape of antenna is also an important visual cue to distinguish three radars. The tip of Type 349 radar is a conical, which is missing on Type 347. Instead, the tip of Type 347 radar antenna is a small circular flat surface, missing the tip of the cone. The antenna of Type 348 radar differs from both Type 347 and Type 349 radars in that most of the cone is missing, only the base remains, so the antenna of Type 348 radar has a very large circular flat surface, resulting in Type 348 radar resembles a scaled down version of another larger fire control radar for larger caliber guns (76 mm or greater),
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Several models of Type 349 radars have been deployed by PLAN, with the first and most widely used version as the one installed on Type 730 CIWS. Another model used to control larger caliber guns is installed separately from the gun mount and rotates when searching/tracking. A derivative
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can control both the small and larger caliber guns.
 
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