Yeah, I don't see anything left to install. This must be it. I'm glad they finally got rid of that clunky-looking thing.Photo of DDG Nanjing of very high resolution.
I think this is final, there won't be rod installed under the panel. It looks too finished to have any fitting left, especially because the rod was supposed to be part of the installation of the original radar array.
052C/052D Class Destroyers
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I didn't notice this until now, but it appears this isn't the first 052D without the rod. See photo below (the unit marked by the red arrow).
Hyperwarp
Captain
Good catch!
Jura The idiot
General
just "retweeting"
Trois nouveaux destroyers Type 052D construits par le chantier naval Jiangnan Changxing sont actuellement en essais à la mer.
Translated from French by
Three new Type 052D Destroyer built by the Jiangnan Changxing shipyard are currently in sea trials.
It seems this one has the windshield wipers.....
just "retweeting"
Trois nouveaux destroyers Type 052D construits par le chantier naval Jiangnan Changxing sont actuellement en essais à la mer.
Translated from French by
Three new Type 052D Destroyer built by the Jiangnan Changxing shipyard are currently in sea trials.
Jura The idiot
General
just a cool picture (of ) from Twitter
PLAN Zhengzhou reported to have left China to take part in ASEAN Fleet Review in Pattaya
PiSigma
"the engineer"
Super Mod JH: I included these two posts here because I believe they are germane to the discussion here, as ell as the overall PLAN fleet discussion:
I also still think 55 is not a huge revolution in ship design because they are getting 5 ships essentially at the same time. Which means they are confident in the design or that there is nothing super revolutionary in the design that they need years to debug like the 52C. This would mean possibility the crews for 52 and 55 can be cross trained, gives more flexibility for manpower.
If we do see a larger 54 in a 57 ship between the current 54 and 52 in tonnage, then 52 might stop production soon after.
It is either 56 - 54 - 52 - 55 or 56 - 57 - 55.
57 as a beefed up frigate with 55 a beefed up destroyer would be interesting.
I see the PLAN going 52 and 55 together for awhile yet. Part of it is leads time for the project and procurement decisions made years ago. Once a ramp up in production is started, the momentum is hard to stop. Also, if the navy likes the ships, volume and budget comes into play. Even if 55 is much better, there is a certain need for volume, so the compromise would be 52.
I also still think 55 is not a huge revolution in ship design because they are getting 5 ships essentially at the same time. Which means they are confident in the design or that there is nothing super revolutionary in the design that they need years to debug like the 52C. This would mean possibility the crews for 52 and 55 can be cross trained, gives more flexibility for manpower.
If we do see a larger 54 in a 57 ship between the current 54 and 52 in tonnage, then 52 might stop production soon after.
It is either 56 - 54 - 52 - 55 or 56 - 57 - 55.
57 as a beefed up frigate with 55 a beefed up destroyer would be interesting.
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I agree. I see the 52D continuing for a while yet, and the 55 also continuing.
Perhaps as many as 18 Type 52Ds which would allow for six of those per fleet plus the two Type Type 52Cs per fleet as well. Then probably at least 12 Type 55s with four per fleet, or up to eighteen to allow for six per fleet.
Also it depends on how they orgnize the carrier battle groups with respect to the fleets. If they want their escorts to be rotated through but not (at the time they are part of the escort) to be a part of each fleet, you may see an addition two Type 052Ds and one Type 055 per carrier...which would mean another two Type 054A/B per carrier...or the potentil Type 057.
As I say, it will depend on how they organize the crriers with respet to the three fleets.
I believe they might rotate esort dutie through the various escorts, but while they are escorting a CSG, they are on detached duties.
Such an organization would then end up with up to:
6 x Type 055 per fleet
6 x Type 052D per fleet
2 x Type 052C er fleet
10 x Type 054A/B per fleet (up to this number, perhaps 8 per fleet)
Then for the carriers:
1 x Type 055 per carrier
2 x Type 052Ds per carrier
2 x Type 054A/B er carrier.
If we factor in three fleets and four carriers you end up with:
22 x Type 055 DDGs
26 x Type 052D DDGs
06 x Type 052C DDGs
38 x Type 054A/B
This is a total of:
54 DDGs
38 FFGs
A modern surface fleet of 92 vessels in the mid to late 2020 time frame.
Again, I agree with this.
What the Type 55 brings is a deeper well for VLS, and probably the type of fleet/group command facilities within the ship that we see on a US Ticonderoga CG, allowing the Type 55 to operate in a battle-space coordination/control role in a stronger manner than a Type 052D perhaps. Also, as I say, with 112 VLS, she brings much deeper well for VLS missiles for better overall fleet defense.
All in all a very amazing transformation that the PLAN will have made in a 25 year period...absolutely amazing actually.
Jura The idiot
General
Nov 10, 2017
source is the vid
now happened to noticed she had arrived:
just a cool picture (of ) from Twitter
PLAN Zhengzhou reported to have left China to take part in ASEAN Fleet Review in Pattaya
source is the vid
