052C/052D Class Destroyers

jobjed said:

The progress on the third vessel is slower than usual but that might be due to Dalian focusing on getting the first one delivered before launching the third... or they might be diverting resources to the 055s. Who knows.

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antiterror13 said:

I'd say (in my opinion) excluding development cost
056A : $150M
054A : $300M
052C+ : $750M
052D : $900M (roughly 50% of AB cost)
055 :$1.5B

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Deino said:

Based on what ?

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J16B MRF said:

Pardon me,but I do remember something have seen from a big shrimp "pop3"(it seems this name has been familiar in this forum?at least several times).
It about 5 main warships' costs:056 ~¥680M($100M?)and 056A slightly above ¥700M;
054A ¥1.5B;
052D ~¥3B;
055 ~¥6B(~$900M?)
And,allow me to spend some time looking for the source,please.

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1. Type 055 costs 6 billion yuan.
2. Type 054 (not Type 054A) costs 1 billion yuan.
3. Type 071 costs 1 billion yuan.
4. Type 053H3 costs 550 million yuan.
5. Type 056 costs 670 million yuan.
6. Type 056A costs 710 million yuan.
7. Type 903 costs 400 million yuan.

1. Type 346 APARs cost 500 million yuan.
2. H/PJ-12 CIWS costs 110 million yuan.
3. Type 79 dual-barrel 100mm gun costs >10 million yuan.

jobjed said:

I've posted on this before. I haven't come across any figures for the cost of 052Ds from pop3 but the figures he has given include:

Ships:

1. Type 055 costs 6 billion yuan.
2. Type 054 (not Type 054A) costs 1 billion yuan.
3. Type 071 costs 1 billion yuan.
4. Type 053H3 costs 550 million yuan.
5. Type 056 costs 670 million yuan.
6. Type 056A costs 710 million yuan.
7. Type 903 costs 400 million yuan.

Equipment:

1. Type 346 APARs cost 500 million yuan.
2. H/PJ-12 CIWS costs 110 million yuan.
3. Type 79 dual-barrel 100mm gun costs >10 million yuan.

From these figures, we should be able to infer that sensor suites and weapons systems constitute the majority of a vessel's costs, and vessels without complex sensors and weapons, like 071 and 903, are actually cheaper despite their hull's being larger.

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Richard Santos said:

These cost figures really don't mean a thing unless we know what they include. Do they include any prorated portion of the R&D that went into them? Or are they just the incremental price of one more ship? Do they include all the costs associated with their building and construction? Or are some of the equipment costs hidden in a different ledger?

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1. Does not include R&D. R&D costs are worked out between the navy and research institutes separately.
2. Includes everything on the ship except munitions and consumables. VLS missile canisters, food & water, fuel, etc. are paid for separately.

Hendrik_2000 said:

This article here describe the trial and tribulation of incorporating new weapon system into type 52D.
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In early 2016, the crew "burned" some components of their Type 346A solid-face radar in a combat simulation, boosting

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本报讯 王栋、特约记者曾行贱报道：某新型雷达最远探测距离超过设定距离10%，主炮连射数超过海军同型装备长连射峰值……日前，南海舰队某驱逐舰支队一份装备作战数据报告出炉，10余项新装备实战性能指标突破出厂设定值。

今年年初的一次实兵对抗，该支队昆明舰官兵使用某新型雷达突破探测性能极限，虽先敌发现目标，却造成元器件损坏。此事引起支队党委的思考：舰艇换代装备较新，如何有效挖掘和发挥新装备的最大效能，形成整体战斗力？对此，该支队成立攻关组，分别对雷达、通信、机电等12类装备进行性能评估，科学制订使用流程，建立极限使用数据档案。他们还将武器平台极限射击、复杂条件下指挥作战、超距离探测等险难课目纳入作战方案，采取实战对抗、随机导调等方式，全方位检验装备极限性能。同时，他们与厂家和科研院所成立风险评估组，对极限训练进行安全论证，做好装备使用的风险评估和维护保障。

对新装备的极限探索，趟开了科学用装的新路子。今年以来，20余套建立在新装备数据基础上的战法成果得到检验，上千组装备使用数据进入作战数据库，缩短了新入列战舰战斗力生成时间。

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This is the latest radar farthest detection distance of more than 10% of the set distance, the main gun even more than the Navy with the same type of long-range peak equipment ... ... Recently, the South China Sea Fleet a destroyer detachment of a Equipment, equipment, combat data reported baked, more than 10 new equipment combat performance indicators exceeded the factory set value.

At the beginning of this year a real confrontation, the detachment of Kunming, the use of a new type of radar breakthrough detection limit, although the first enemy found the target, but caused damage to components. The cause of the detachment of the party committee thinking: ship replacement equipment newer, how to effectively tap and play the maximum performance of new equipment, the formation of the overall combat effectiveness? In this regard, the detachment set up research group, respectively, radar, communications, electromechanical and other 12 kinds of equipment for performance evaluation, scientific development of the use of the process, the establishment of extreme use of data files. They will also limit the weapons platform shooting, under the conditions of command operations, ultra-distance detection and other dangerous subjects into the combat program, to take combat confrontation, random tone, etc., all-round inspection equipment limit performance. At the same time, they and manufacturers and research institutes set up risk assessment group, the safety training on the limit, do the equipment to use the risk assessment and maintenance.

The new equipment to explore the limits of the trip to open a new way to use science. This year, more than 20 sets of new equipment based on the basis of the results of the war results have been tested, thousands of equipment to use the data into the operational database, shortening the new combat ships to build combat time.

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