052C/052D Class Destroyers

Iron Man said:

I listed all the ships which were within about 2,000 tons of the 052D. They all are multirole, even the Type 45 which can carry 2 Lynx helos for ASW.


IMO this is a poorly designed fanboi's fantasy. It's got way too many VL cells that are poorly proportioned in size. The chaff/flare launchers are restricted in their firing arcs to the rear, the AESA is way too small, and the placement of the aft life raft containers on the helipad is just totally ridiculous.

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It is a destroyer configuration that CSSC we using to advertise their new ciws.
So it is not entirely un-credible in the sense that it may be a configuration they may be looking to export, but it probably isn't an 052E in the sense that it is a design the navy will take to succeed 052D

Bltizo said:

It is a destroyer configuration that CSSC we using to advertise their new ciws.
So it is not entirely un-credible in the sense that it may be a configuration they may be looking to export, but it probably isn't an 052E in the sense that it is a design the navy will take to succeed 052D

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Even if it came out of CSSC, it was clearly a CG that was put together by someone who doesn't know how to design ships.

Iron Man said:

Even if it came out of CSSC, it was clearly a CG that was put together by someone who doesn't know how to design ships.

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I think some of the details are a bit strange but I wouldn't necessarily go that far.

I think the aft life raft containers are the single most impractical design feature there, but tbh strange looking or improportional looking designs is not new in defence marketing if the design is not meant to be the marketed product

Bltizo said:

I think some of the details are a bit strange but I wouldn't necessarily go that far.

I think the aft life raft containers are the single most impractical design feature there, but tbh strange looking or improportional looking designs is not new in defence marketing if the design is not meant to be the marketed product

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Of course the guy who drew the CG was some amateur. He/she couldn't even get the sizes of the VLS and AESA right. The life raft containers on the helipad is the biggest kicker of them all. This is a total hack job done by some low level graphic artist who was told by a higher up at CSSC to "draw up a ship CG and make sure to put our new CIWS design on it, and make it quick". This CG was the result.

L2SG said:

So apparently their are rumors of a Type 052E, can anyone confirm this?

(Maybe the E is "E" as in for "export"?

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Very unlikely, for one any country that has grown to have a requirement for a new-built DDG design of 8000+Ton displacement, most likely they got the necessary domestic shipbuilding capability to design and build such a ship themselves, with the economic and political incentive (or imperative even) to shop domestically. Component suites is another thing sure but you know what I mean.

Then there are the details that doesn't make sense...perhaps with a full video clip of where that "thing" came from, we'd then have a better idea of what's what...

MwRYum said:

Very unlikely, for one any country that has grown to have a requirement for a new-built DDG design of 8000+Ton displacement, most likely they got the necessary domestic shipbuilding capability to design and build such a ship themselves, with the economic and political incentive (or imperative even) to shop domestically. Component suites is another thing sure but you know what I mean.

Then there are the details that doesn't make sense...perhaps with a full video clip of where that "thing" came from, we'd then have a better idea of what's what...

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see my reply at the top of this page... it's merely just a display concept meant to be a showcase for the new export ciws rather than any likely real ddg design

The ninth 52D Nanjing start sea trial From Oedo

052 D destroyer Nanking made a public sea trial

052C's YJ-62 Missile

The TYpe 052D can be built in numbers (and is being built in numbers) that will allow it to be used in many different ways, escorting carriers, escorting LPD/Amphibs, parts of SAG operations, show the flag, leder of all sorts of Task Forces comprising FFGs, and even in supiort of Type 0566 vessels.

A Typoe 055 will defineltely be the heavy hitter, defense leader of large task forces centerd on carriers and large Amphib groups.

We will see how many of them they build.

At this point it could go either way, but i would not be surprised to see the Type 052D built in a 2:1 ratio or maybe even higher.

That gives the PLAN a lot of flexability and really address all sorts of needs from the first island chain clear round the world with the Tpe 052D and the Type 055 DDGs. heck, they have been doing so alreay with the Tupe 052C and the Type 054As.

When you add the Type 054A/B vessels in their large numbers, the PLAN has developed a very strong bse of flexable surface combatants...and in very good numbers.

Imagine in the mid-2020s the PLAN with 40 of the modern Frigates, 30 of the modern DDGs (not to mention10-12 other DDGs that will be still relevant in that time frame due to the refitting), and a good 15 or more of the large TYpe 055s.

That's a force of cloe to or over 100 surface combatants...and they have all sorts of flexability in what they can do with them based on their various/varying capabilities.

but none of them are weak.

The 6th destroyer Type 052D will soon be ready for its entry into service, which should take place in the next two months.
From Henri K