052/052B Class Destroyers

Jeff Head

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Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Anyone seen the Lanzhou (DDG-170) side by side with the Changchun (DDG-150)? They were commissioned about 9 years apart, so it'd be interesting to see quality and workmanship differences between the two.
In answer to your question, here are two relatively recent pictures of the two:


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The Type 052C along with the Type 052B vessels that immediately preceded them, looked very good coming out of construction. Qualitatively, IMHO, they really marked an important milestone for Chinese Naval shipbuilding. Since that time, with the rest of the run of Type 052Cs, now the Type 052Ds, all of the Type 054As, the Type 056 vessels, etc, the PLAN has been producucing what I would call a very high quality product in terms of their structural design and fit for their vessels. Very good lines.

Above, in those pics, both look really squared away and ship shape to me, despite the difference in age. And in a good quality shipbuilding program, that is what you would expect.

The initial flight IIA Burke destroyer, USS Oscar Austin, DDG-79, launched in November 1998, still looks as good as the latest, USS Michael Murphey, DDG-112, launched in May 2011, even though they were launched 12 years apart. (BTW, that's a really good build run right there, 34 vessels in 12 years.)

I am sure there were some improvements made in the intervening years in the Type 052C vessels. How many of those were able to be upgraded into the intial two vessels (170 and 171) during their scheduled maintainenence, I do not know. But they look really good now, and it is indicative a high quality program.
 

shen

Senior Member
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

CCTV: 052C Missile Destroyer, 150-Changchun

[video]http://news.cntv.cn/2014/02/01/VIDE1391264279744616.shtml[/video]

very informative documentary.

1)confirmation of TAS
2)052D is slightly bigger than 052C
3)change to flat panels is due to improved cooling
4)Chinese AESA radar is lighter than America SPY-1. the expert claim Tico cruiser need 300tons of extra ballast to maintain stability. while 052D carry bigger but lighter radar on a smaller hull without the need for extra ballast.
5)the experts also claim the radar on 052C is not completely digital while the 052D radar is completely digitized.
 

Franklin

Captain
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

It will be very interesting to see the CIC of the Type 052D. We know that the Type 052D when it comes to information and data collection and the speed of processing and transmission are both much greater than the Type 052C or the Type 054A. So it will be interesting to see how the CIC look like. Rather they will have a conventional layout as we see it now or will they go over to the more modern office like layout. They will need to have better trained personnel in them and they will also need a few more people in the CIC.
 

drunkmunky

Junior Member
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

kinda curious what kind of materials are utilized for the ships cooling systems. That water has so much salt, leachate and sediment content.... eck.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Chinese New Year Holidays, No One Works in Shanghai

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That's a very nice pic of D1 and D2.

D1 is getting its final outfitting there and I am sure they will apply the lessons learned from her initial sea trials to D2.

I wonder how far along D4 is in the barn?
 

usaf0314

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Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

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this was a live fire exercise back in Feb of 2012. I never seen it before, so apologies if it is a repost.
 

Blitzo

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Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

A nice completed picture of 052D from the same angle but divided up from a while ago

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