052/052B Class Destroyers

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

C6 & D1

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Great pics. Love seeing them. Two more "Ds" coming too. Phenomenal. Soon be six " Cs" and three "Ds".
 

timepass

Brigadier
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Great pics. Love seeing them. Two more "Ds" coming too. Phenomenal. Soon be six " Cs" and three "Ds".

Jeff reffering to A.man's post # 2366 on 19th NOV'12 the 2nd 052D is also luanched, so next 2 currently under construction in halls are 3 & 4 052D.
 

ChinaGuy

Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

how on earth did someone take that photo>? looks like someone was flying over them

PLA has helicopters don't you know ? You are seeing those photos because PLA wants you to see. This is why they line up the ships for you.
 

MwRYum

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

PLA has helicopters don't you know ? You are seeing those photos because PLA wants you to see. This is why they line up the ships for you.

I know Google pulled its services in China but Baidu have map service too, all you need to do is do your homework and see where Pudong Airport is, especially in relation to Changxing Island where the shipbuilding complex is. Aerial photography from civilian flights is nothing new for Chinese military fans, BTW.

Your reply can only fool the most uninformed of us, but that's a very rare breed in this forum.
 

MwRYum

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Unauthorised release of state secrets carries the death penalty in China. You will find vast majority of the Chinese population are quite patriotic and would follow the rules. The few that don't will get lynched by the rest. You are quite easy to fool since you don't understand how things work in China.

Sensitive military locations will not be overflown by civilian aircraft regardless of where the airport is. It works a bit like in the US. But I bet you believe sensitive military locations with Chinese characteristics are different to those of the US, in that anyone are allowed to flay over them. Or maybe you believe China is so backward that it hasn't yet developed the tech, awareness and sophistication in protecting their military secrets the way the US does. Strange, though, in another thread people are complaining China is so secretive as to be unable to release the most mundane of military information. In this thread, we believe China is incapable of being secretive. This wild swing of beliefs can only come from ignorance.

Your reply only cement your "5-cent gang" reputation even more, and worse trying to insult our intelligence...first of all that shipyard is a civilian / commercial establishment and not a military base; next, commercial airline flight path is a whole another kind of matter compare with private aircraft (including helicopters) flights, in China currently all such flights requires such flight plans to be prior submitted for approval, not like in US just submit to FAA for records - China's airspace is the most restricted in the world due to historical reasons, though there's an official roadmap to open up the skies but the most resistive forces against it comes from the PLAAF.

Next, you can't possibly take photos from your window seats if the airliner flies straight and level, it needs to be banking and climbing / descending to get the angles right, that means the airliner isn't flying directly over the shipyard but on a route off by an angle, during its climbing / landing phase.

Thirdly, if you've ever flown on an airliner you should have some idea how cramp the seats are, and how unfavorable the lighting conditions for such photo-taking can be, not to mention ruling out the use of DSLR or even the Micro Four Thirds lens camera, the most viable of tools would be small DC or smartphone camera; now combine with the kind of think plexiglass of airliner's window and a few seconds worth of photo-taking opportunity, that's why such pics, if successfully taken, are usually so blur.

It's your bad luck that there're Chinese-specking members in this forum who can immediately see through you. Please reserve your political bravado in mainland China's forums, here it'd only do ill service for China.
 
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A.Man

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Your reply only cement your "5-cent gang" reputation even more, and worse trying to insult our intelligence...first of all that shipyard is a civilian / commercial establishment and not a military base; next, commercial airline flight path is a whole another kind of matter compare with private aircraft (including helicopters) flights, in China currently all such flights requires such flight plans to be prior submitted for approval, not like in US just submit to FAA for records - China's airspace is the most restricted in the world due to historical reasons, though there's an official roadmap to open up the skies but the most resistive forces against it comes from the PLAAF.

Next, you can't possibly take photos from your window seats if the airliner flies straight and level, it needs to be banking and climbing / descending to get the angles right, that means the airliner isn't flying directly over the shipyard but on a route off by an angle, during its climbing / landing phase.

Thirdly, if you've ever flown on an airliner you should have some idea how cramp the seats are, and how unfavorable the lighting conditions for such photo-taking can be, not to mention ruling out the use of DSLR or even the Micro Four Thirds lens camera, the most viable of tools would be small DC or smartphone camera; now combine with the kind of think plexiglass of airliner's window and a few seconds worth of photo-taking opportunity, that's why such pics, if successfully taken, are usually so blur.

It's your bad luck that there're Chinese-specking members in this forum who can immediately see through you. Please reserve your political bravado in mainland China's forums, it'd only do ill service for China.

I have been, on Chinese and foreign airliners, flying right through Jiangnan Changxin many times while flights making turns on top of the shipyard. If you set at the right side of the window, you are right looking at 052's. I tried to spot a carrier but without a luck. It was so close to the shipyard, you could take very good pictures if you had your camera ready. I have heard people on HSH talking taking photos flying through the shipyard.
 
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ChinaGuy

Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Your reply only cement your "5-cent gang" reputation even more

Wrong gang. I am with the $100 gang. Every time I do it I feel like paying China $100 because I think they are doing such a good job and I want to encourage them.


I have been, on Chinese and foreign airliners, flying right through Jiangnan Changxin many times while flights making turns on top of the shipyard. If you set at the right side of the window, you are right looking at 052's. I tried to spot a carrier but without a luck. It was so close to the shipyard, you could take very good pictures if you had your camera ready. I have heard people on HSH talking taking photos flying through the shipyard.

To be convincing, next time when you fly over the 052's, take a picture with one hand. With the other hand hold up a small piece of paper within frame with the writing "A Man was here" on it. Then there will be no more doubt to what you say, and it will be quite amusing.

Some of these photos are taken more of less vertically above the ships. How are these done on a civilian passenger aircraft exactly ? Have you really been on a plane, or have you stayed in your bedroom all your life with a laptop ?
 
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superdog

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

To be convincing, next time when you fly over the 052's, take a picture with one hand. With the other hand hold up a small piece of paper within frame with the writing "A Man was here" on it. Then there will be no more doubt to what you say, and it will be quite amusing.

Some of these photos are taken more of less vertically above the ships. How are these done on a civilian passenger aircraft exactly ? Have you really been on a plane, or have you stayed in your bedroom all your life with a laptop ?
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Plenty of Chinese military fans from fyjs, cjdby and HSH will quickly tell you that you're wrong:
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Now are you going to tell me A.Man and those people are all liars? I believe those people have actually flown to Shanghai on a window seat and tried to look out, while you most likely have never done so. It seems pretty clear to me that you're the one who "stayed in your bedroom all your life with a laptop", because if you have actually tried to visit places near major shipyards in China, you'll know that at many places it is totally possible to take photos of under-construction warships from the land, from a boat, or from the air. The rationales you used in earlier posts such as military shipyards blocked from nearby air traffic or civilians intimidated by death penalty so they will never release picture are more like your imagination, not how things actually work in China. Please don't assume that you know more about China than other people here just because you're Chinese.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Please don't call for others to be banned as that will only get yourself in trouble with the mods. Just ignore the obvious trolls/bots and they will either get bored to wonder off or up their anty and get themselves banned without any help or encouragement from anyone else.
 
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