00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

TK3600

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I am here going against the ideas of "at least 2 conventional carrier" before nuclear. Or stupid "test on a civilian ice breaker" first. I am calling it nuclear next. We have all the design experience and parts ready. Next one will be nuclear with similar dimension to 003.
 

antiterror13

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I am here going against the ideas of "at least 2 conventional carrier" before nuclear. Or stupid "test on a civilian ice breaker" first. I am calling it nuclear next. We have all the design experience and parts ready. Next one will be nuclear with similar dimension to 003.

calm down ...... ;) this is a long game
 

VESSEL

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I am here going against the ideas of "at least 2 conventional carrier" before nuclear. Or stupid "test on a civilian ice breaker" first. I am calling it nuclear next. We have all the design experience and parts ready. Next one will be nuclear with similar dimension to 003.
The next one with all-new design will be bigger than 003.
 

charles18

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I am calling for six 003 to be build before nuclear...
During WW2, Japan built Yamato, the world's largest battleship. The Americans made no attempt to create a battleship of equal size.
This may sound controversial, what if the PLAN never builds a nuclear carrier?
 

Mirabo

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During WW2, Japan built Yamato, the world's largest battleship. The Americans made no attempt to create a battleship of equal size.

For the record, the Americans designed and ordered five Montana-class battleships before eventually cancelling them after the Battle of Midway. The Americans also had no idea about Yamato's specifications until after the end of the war and assumed them to be Iowa-class equivalents, but they ordered the Montanas anyway.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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During WW2, Japan built Yamato, the world's largest battleship. The Americans made no attempt to create a battleship of equal size.
This may sound controversial, what if the PLAN never builds a nuclear carrier?
the advantage over diesels for hotel loads is pretty big, but it also has disadvantages like complexity and shielding. maybe they can do small modular reactors that don't require huge amounts of shielding for hotel loads and combustion engines for turning shafts in a CONAS configuration like Kirovs.
 

charles18

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The Arleigh Burke destroyer weighs 10,000 tons and has 140,000 hp.
The Nimitz carrier weighs 100,000 tons and has 280,000 hp.
This seems very counter intuitive.

I find it confusing that a ship can weigh 10 times as much but only has 2 times the horsepower. I always thought if a ship weighed 10 times as much then maybe it should have 4 times the horsepower. I find this confusing.
Anyways lets assume these numbers are accurate.

Suppose a carrier never travels alone and is always escorted by 8 destroyers. Therefore one carrier battle group would have a combined power of 1,400,000 hp. That is 280,000 hp of nuclear power and 1,120,000 hp of diesel power. Look at it this way a carrier battle group has 20% hp of nuclear power and 80% hp of diesel power.
What am I getting at?
The fuel savings of going "nuclear" for a carrier seems very small considering it only makes up 20% of the battle group.
Am I onto something or am I missing something?
 

Intrepid

Major
... or am I missing something?
A cruiser is steaming on cruise power, an aircraft carrier is steaming on max. power into the wind and on max. power on a racetrack pattern back into the formation. And 8 destroyers is a lot, may be, there are only 4 of them.
 
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