Your argument is based on assuming that dockyard resources are limited. China choosing to build these CV (or CVNs) is not stopping her from building a requisite number of other surface ships as well as submarines. And with a downturn in civilian ship demand, keeping the dockyard and workers busy building a carriers is probably a good way to maintain your shipyard and building capacity.
00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread
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Your argument is based on assuming that dockyard resources are limited. China choosing to build these CV (or CVNs) is not stopping her from building a requisite number of other surface ships as well as submarines. And with a downturn in civilian ship demand, keeping the dockyard and workers busy building a carriers is probably a good way to maintain your shipyard and building capacity.
China has many drydocks for building. They can build more dry docks if they want.
I never said that nor did I ever implied that.
You're either not good at reading or just too quick to judge someone based on what **you** like to think in your head.
Yes China has the ship building capacity, but just because China can do something that does not necessarily mean they will do it. "Can" and "Will" are 2 different words.
Within the foreseeable future (between now and 25 years) we do Not know what the PLA's objective is:
Does China want to:
Project power very long distances?
Turn China into an impenetrable fortress?
Have the ability to sink anything that floats on or under water?
Project power onto land from the sea?
Each of these objectives would require different types of ships.
If China had its wish the answer would be all of the above and then some more..... In fact why stop at the navy? Why not be a land, sea, air, and space super power! However in the real world there's this thing called a budget.
The answer is going to have to be a, b, or c. Not d all of the above.
We don't know what China will prioritize next. Like I said before, "We just have to wait and see."
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IMO, unless you are in a war, you don't build 2 aircraft carrier at the same time. When 2 aircraft carriers need to do MLU at the same time, 2 major dry docks would be unavaliable for others ships for 2 to 4 years, which is significant because a large drydock can only accommodate 1 aircraft carrier, but can accommodate many other types of ships.
4 destroyers can be built simultaneously in a large dry dock, so 2 aircraft carrier doing MLU at the same time means 8 destroyers would not be built in the same drydocks. Therefore it would be more prudent to have 1 drydock for AC MLU and another for construction of new 4 DDGs.
5+-2 years, IMO is more idea, not just for the drydock time, but also for evaluating design performance of a built ship in operation and thereafter improve the next yet to be build ship.
4 destroyers can be built simultaneously in a large dry dock, so 2 aircraft carrier doing MLU at the same time means 8 destroyers would not be built in the same drydocks. Therefore it would be more prudent to have 1 drydock for AC MLU and another for construction of new 4 DDGs.
5+-2 years, IMO is more idea, not just for the drydock time, but also for evaluating design performance of a built ship in operation and thereafter improve the next yet to be build ship.
Again …we have NO PROOF AT ALL for 004 being under construction let alone when 003 wasn't finished.
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Hi, my friends. I think we forget, or don't recognize it, but China is simultaneously building three aircraft carriers. Yes, the Fujian and two drone carriers (experimental, civilian?)
Yeah well, when the first pictures of J-50 (retouched and PSed yes, but very much based on real photos) came out on December 23 i believe, you very confidently labelled them as fake and even put such labels on them. So you were looking at the first flight of the J-50 three days before the videos appeared and you had no idea.
So, are you so confident that what pretty much all reliable chinese sources are hinting to being built at Dalian is not the 004 carrier, or at the very least A carrier? If you are so confident about that, stand by it and let's talk again say later in the year or early next year. Will you apologize to the people you've been pestering and bullying when they convey rumours and hints about 004 if by then we will see proof of a carrier taking shape there?
So, are you so confident that what pretty much all reliable chinese sources are hinting to being built at Dalian is not the 004 carrier, or at the very least A carrier? If you are so confident about that, stand by it and let's talk again say later in the year or early next year. Will you apologize to the people you've been pestering and bullying when they convey rumours and hints about 004 if by then we will see proof of a carrier taking shape there?
A estas capacidades hay que añadir necesariamente el tipo 076. Con todas las capacidades que pueda tener.
The 076 LHD Sichuan, while capable of UCAV operations, is not a proper carrier. It's an LHD, and it isn't meant to go toe-to-toe against enemy warships on the high seas like the proper carriers.
As for that CSSC Discovery #1, it's a (most likely civilian) flat-deck research and testing platform ship. She's not even a proper warship, so counting it as a "proper carrier" is plain wrong.
Hence, there is likely to be only one carrier that are under construction in China at the present moment, if those hull modules at that drydock at Dalian is firmly proven to belong to a 004 CV(N).
Also, please use English.