A 60,000 metrics tons carrier with not one, not two, not three, but FOUR catapults. No wonder it was abandoned. /s
00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread
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Because:
1. That module is a test/experimentation module, which is always built sometime before the actual ship construction work starts. Both the 003 CV Fujian and 076 LHD Sichuan have similar test/experimentation modules built sometime before the actual start of their construction.
2. Keel up, yes, but warships today are often built using modular construction method, i.e. ship module are fabricated first before being hauled for assembly inside a drydock/assembly hall.
In the meantime, given that said test/experimentation module has been spotted by satellite as early as early-mid 2024, I'd say that the actual construction work on the 004 CVN would've already started by now, even if only at preliminary stages.
Why haven't we heard any news from JNCX yet？There are no more CVs？
For one - In contrast to the Guancha Trios, @Captain 小潇 on Weibo strongly refutes the notion on the existence of Fujian's sister ship (i.e. CV-19). That is, the next Chinese carrier will be nuclear-powered, and that the Guancha Trio didn't really mean it*.
(*it = simultaneous construction of CV-19 and CVN-20)
The other would be that there is still no observable proof at Jiangnan Shipyard which indicates that the construction of CV-19 is already underway. If the first modules have already been fabricated (if the claim of CV-19 construction is indeed factual), then they are either still stored underneath fabrication halls, or we still haven't manage to identify them.
Either way, I suppose it remains to be seen whether we would see CV-19 and CVN-20, or just CVN-19 and CVN-20 onwards, straight-away.
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asif iqbal
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It doesn’t follow Chinese carrier construction
keel laid with modules dropped in by crane in a systematic synchronized method
probably a test like we seen back in 2013
but also good news that DL has some sort of carrier activity which we all suspected
keel laid with modules dropped in by crane in a systematic synchronized method
probably a test like we seen back in 2013
but also good news that DL has some sort of carrier activity which we all suspected
Any more details about this pic? Is it also a clip from the same satellite imagery? Don't satellites only view from the top down?
Are these catapults deeper & larger than Fujian's EMALS, which means they can launch heavier aircrafts?
We know that DL procured 4 EMALS sometime before. But is there any similar news from JN?
If not, then CV-19 is dead?
No.
Is it also a clip from the same satellite imagery? Don't satellites only view from the top down?
No, but it refers to the same test/experimental module at Dalian (the one with two troughs).
The side view of that test/experimental module was taken from the ground level (or close to the ground). However, we don't know exactly where or when that photo was taken, so there's that.
No? Both of them both look pretty similar to each other (if not the same).
Also, I don't think we can deduct the aircraft launch weight capacity of EMCATs merely by looking at the depth and size of the EMCAT troughs.
We know that DL procured 4 EMALS sometime before. But is there any similar news from JN?
If not, then CV-19 is dead?
As I've mentioned before, and to put it simply - As of now, we don't know.
The only thing we can be sure of is that China is actually building a CVN right now.
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As far as I can recall:
1. There have been academic papers on nuclear propulsion systems for large vessels (of which I recall the placeholder diagram of that nuclear propulsion system in one of the papers which look familiar/similar to those placeholder diagrams of similar systems on the USN CVNs seen before);
2. There have been tender documents from 2 or 3 years ago from Dalian regarding the upgrading works for certain sites/facilities at the shipyard that would enable the handling of nuclear-related materials (I don't recall the same happening at Jiangnan for the time being, apart from that one Jiangnan delegation visit to Huludao some years ago);
3. Dalian shipyard has never built a submarine before, let alone a nuclear-powered one; and
4. Indications/hints from Chinese OSINT sources on Weibo that are deemed credible/reliable (have been following them for some time).
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What would make Captain 小潇 credible in this case?