JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[asif iqbal]

Why do we always end up spoiling this thread

Sino-Pak is a governmental relationship between clever people not dictated by the stupid people of both countries who give very immature statements

 

[ougoah]

Why do we always end up spoiling this thread

Sino-Pak is a governmental relationship between clever people not dictated by the stupid people of both countries who give very immature statements

Might be the arrogant attitude of one poster who insists they know about some sensitive insider information and their self-assuredness when it comes to how Pakistan can treat China however it likes when any realist will tell you if there is one member of the partnership doing more heavy lifting, it is China. If there was a member who should get more say, it is China. If there is one member that has a lot more to lose from not being in the alliance, it is Pakistan. So the whole Pakistan can and should get whatever it wants whenever it wants for free and China should always be absolutely accommodating because gee Pakistan is just that great an ally, is utter bullshit and deserves to be called out with "immature statements".

 

[timepass]

Egyptian Air Force Shows Interest in Large Purchase of AESA Equipped JF-17 Fighters ....

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[asif iqbal]

No definitely not

block 3 should NOT be for export

the Arabs will just do great bad advertisement for block 3 and eventually Israel will probably get their hands on one

do not compromise

Block 2 for export only we don’t need exports to compromise our national security

 

[timepass]

No definitely not

block 3 should NOT be for export

the Arabs will just do great bad advertisement for block 3 and eventually Israel will probably get their hands on one

do not compromise

Block 2 for export only we don’t need exports to compromise our national security

Hold your horses ... its just a news, nothing official .... Egyptians are showing interest in JF17s since couple of years or should I say after the birth of BLK - 2... hence lets see...

 

[sequ]

Gotta love the hubris on PDF . But sometimes it gets too much. And you know it gets too much when some of that hubris is visible on this forum. .

 

[MastanKhan]

Um, I have no idea what kind of nonsense you have been reading, but this is absolutely not ok. Pakistan does not get a say on what China spend its money on..

Hi,

I am pretty sure you misunderstood that---. I never made any statements of that sort---. Pakistan has no influence on how china spends its money---.

I am only talking about the pakistani side how it spends the money.

For other posters---clever you may sound and sarcastic as you maybe---but still no clue---.

Why was the price of a toilet to the defense dept in the US a $1000 or a hammer for a 1000---or coffee pot for a 1000---because $900 was going back to fund other 'special projects'---no doubt some was going into the buyers pocket. Smart people will understand that.

 

[MastanKhan]

Can we please stop with the China is nothing without Pakistan BS. So tired of this crap and some Pakistanis who have convinced themselves they are insiders when it comes to military stuff. PDF is the same. I've been reading the blk 3 thread there and my goodness the stupidity and arrogance often exceed the worst Bhakt chauvinism. The way some Pakistani members put down others will make the worst India chauvinists blush with humility.

Most posters are not insiders working on project xyz. Most do not know the reactions of Americans in Jacobabad and Chinese reactions in CATIC. Stop pretending you do. Most posters like that Denel clown over at PDF do not have access to top of the line Chinese EW or probably any serious Chinese avionics and EW systems. From the crap he posts, he probably isn't a real engineer at Denel, just some Islamist with a chip on his shoulder against Indians and Chinese (recently because of the Uighur thing). We must contain PDF stupidity to that forum and the mods here should not allow these sorts of posts to become acceptable in a relatively rational forum.

If anyone wants to make claims about Chinese EW being a decade behind when they worked on them (LOL!) in South Africa, they should back that shit up, at least with model types. If you have access to American and Chinese bases and engineering information, back that shit up. Too much of this I'm an insider wink wink trust me BS lurking around.

Hi,

You have to be somebody to make that statement---just are just a mere poster here with a sharp tongue.

 

[Mohsin77]

Hi,

You sir---are winging it left and right---. China has nowhere to go without pakistan and vice versa---. Pakistan will ask china to make whatever it wants to and if pakistan wants to compliment it with Italian or turkish or equipment from spain---then there is nothing stopping pakistan for getting those items---and china has no qualms about other than---they work their butts of and come up with a better product to compete---the KLJ radar for the JF17---.

The relation between pakistan and china is unique---there is no my way or the highway & if pakistan wants to spend chinese money to get something better from somewhere else---that is not a problem either---.

Pakistan has provided china to test the chinese equipment in a red hot war zone---pakistan also tested the aim120C in the war zone as well---only if you could have seen the reaction of the americans based at Jacobabad air base---and the reaction of the chinese at Catic---.

 

[Xizor]

China, realistically speaking, would like to know the performance of its products from its customers. Intelligence sharing will also be on the plate when it concerns China and a foreign ally (Pakistan).
But I doubt any co-development on technology between China and Pakistan. If there exists a chance of one, those who put a statement like that should back it with past evidences - that assistance happened between China and Pak on developing such technologies.