J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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The article really blows, typical Pinkov. 800km is rather good for a combat radius actually, comparable to most aircraft right now.

SD-10 is the missile with the tested 70km range. The SD-10A might be equal to better.

He mentions the J-10A with the arresting hook. I remember that picture. It was a PS.

I believe most fighter/attack air craft are equipped with a arrestor hook for emergency use on air strips equipped with a arrestor system.

They are not capable of stopping the aircraft, but are used to bleed off speed if they are damaged.

 

[pla101prc]

an interview from November 2008, I can't figure out why it took so long to come out, maybe it did already

basically the important part are that J-10's maneuverability is better than su-27. The maximum load is 9G. It's minimum takeoff is 250 m. And also that amongst fighters in PLAAF, J-10 is the only one that can do the climb that we saw in Zhuhai airshow.

wow it says that they just steal all the best pilots and put them on J-10...what about Su-27 and 30s? those are the ones that are actually gonna fight American fleets if war breaks out over Taiwan

 

[crobato]

wow it says that they just steal all the best pilots and put them on J-10...what about Su-27 and 30s? those are the ones that are actually gonna fight American fleets if war breaks out over Taiwan

That part about the pilots are not true. J-10 regiments are converted from J-7 regiments, not Su-27 or Su-30.

The best pilots of the PLAAF are from the J-7s.

 

[pla101prc]

That part about the pilots are not true. J-10 regiments are converted from J-7 regiments, not Su-27 or Su-30.

The best pilots of the PLAAF are from the J-7s.

so they have the best pilots flying j-7 and crappy pilots flying Su-27/30 and j-10? what a waste

 

[crobato]

No. The best pilots are trained out from the J-7 groups. Even the J-11 groups are from the J-7 groups.

We already charted where J-10 and J-11 groups are converted from. Originally, the first two regiments of Su-27s were actually from J-8II regiments. Later, all subsequent conversions were from J-7 regiments. Guess why. Pilots who live and train on certain types of aircraft also tends to develop certain habits and flying styles. Pilots who train out from dogfighters, are expected to be the better dogfighters than pilots who train out of interceptors.

 

[Quickie]

wow it says that they just steal all the best pilots and put them on J-10...

My impression is this: They are implying that the J-10 is better than the other aircrafts in PLAAF service, and that is why they have priority of getting the best pilots. That just show the importance they place in the J-10, besides it may be good in certain departments that require more pilot skills.

 

[Delbert]

My impression is this: They are implying that the J-10 is better than the other aircrafts in PLAAF service, and that is why they have priority of getting the best pilots. That just show the importance they place in the J-10, besides it may be good in certain departments that require more pilot skills.

I somewhat agree, since J-10 is more maneuverable it really need good pilots in order to maximize the aircrafts potential, or else it will be a waste.

Or this may also mean, that J-10 is really more superior than SU-27's and 30's..
(Though nobody yet can confirm this).

 

[Delbert]

By the way, can the J-10 maneuver like this?

Here's the video:

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This is really a tough..

 

[mean_bird]

That is thrust vectoring at work and I don't think the J-10 has TVC.

TVC is good to have (if you know how to use it well to your advantage) but none of Su-35 or J-10 would be showing these skills in a real combat.

What's the sustained turn rate of the J-10?

 

[HKSDU]

That is thrust vectoring at work and I don't think the J-10 has TVC.

TVC is good to have (if you know how to use it well to your advantage) but none of Su-35 or J-10 would be showing these skills in a real combat.

What's the sustained turn rate of the J-10?

i find it kind of redundant how it has both foward canards and TVC. Having both doesn't really provide that much maneuverability if it only had either canards or TVC. It only ads more weight and structural stress. Even with TVC on that Flanker, J-10 being smaller, lighter with foward canards I suspect it can match that Flanker if not better. TVC is overrated in my views, its mind game, when people think TVC on a fighter it means extreme maneuverability. What if you put TVC on either J-8 or JH-7, does it make it more maneuverable then the J-10. No