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Eventine

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BoraTas said:
Definitely happening, Pompeo's think tank

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"First they came for the CCP members, and I did not speak out - because I was not a CCP member.

Then they came for the Chinese citizens, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Chinese citizen.

Then they came for the American citizens who were raised in China, and I did not speak out - because I was not raised in China.

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."

- Chinese Americans, 2027
 
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Eventine said:
"First they came for the CCP members, and I did not speak out - because I was not a CCP member.

Then they came for the Chinese citizens, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Chinese citizen.

Then they came for the American citizens who were raised in China, and I did not speak out - because I was not raised in China.

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."

- Chinese Americans, 2027
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Then they came for me because I also have slanty eyes — Taiwanese Americans in 2027.
 
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Virtup

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Overbom said:
All these, who is sovereign or not, games are meaningless from a strategic POV. Once the hegemon of the era has decided that your existence needs to be put down, you are going down for sure. Sovereign status or not, you are kaput.

See the "glorious" US invasions and CIA coups. Has "sovereignty" ever protected these victim countries?
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Iran, Venezuela and North Korea would disagree, I think.
 
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pmc

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Eventine said:
Not sure I agree with that.

Russia had an unique window of opportunity in 2014 where Ukraine was in chaos, Russian loyalty among the population was stronger, and most importantly, NATO training & support had yet to materialize on the ground. If, instead of fighting a proxy war with NATO in eastern Ukraine for eight years, it simply pulled off a Crimea with those regions, it likely would be in a much stronger position today.
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Ukraine was much stronger in 2014. it didnot have the visa free system with Europe nor economic integration with Europe to such extent that make its population weaker. Russia could have greater difficulty in knowing who is pro and anti and create messy situation inside the occupied cities where Russia troops easily shot it. over time things become more clear and Medvedev already mentioned 20m people left in current Ukraine. his question was what to do with it.

Eventine said:
Fact is, in the eight years since 2014, Ukraine became much more hardened as a political and military opponent due to NATO training, equipment support, internal purges within the Ukraine political establishment to create an unified cause against Russia, and continued media and intellectual consensus building to secure the population's hostility towards Russia. So that, by the time 2022 rolled around, Russia faced an entrenched, fortified, and battle-hardened Ukraine that was firmly in the Western camp and which could count on the general loyalty of its military officers and main population groups.
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Nato training now comes into play with western system. Ukraine had Soviet heritage. fortifications does not matter Ukraine can resupply them and Russia will keep destroying them.

Eventine said:
I am of the strong belief, in this sense, that Russia's 2022 invasion was an act of desperation and not from a position of strength. They were well aware that the Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine were getting their teeth kicked in by a new, more powerful Ukraine and that further NATO support in the form of a de facto alliance was just on the horizon. Putin knew that status quo meant the defeat of the Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine and the continued build up of a modernized, combined arms force by US military trainers, which could soon threaten to take back Crimea and possibly push even further into Russia's back yard.

In this respect, once his proxy in Washington - Trump - lost the election, Putin knew that the writing was on the wall - it was now or never.
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you are basic understanding between 2014 and 2022 is flawed. in 2014 there was hardly effective OPEC with no leader like MBS whose core is primacy of Arab interests. Russia airpower does not have that reliability training from Syria.
Russia invasion of 2022 was from position of strength. remember those 75 Airlifters that descend on Kazakhstan before the Ukraine conflict. they had ideological authority to do things much more than if they wanted .
it is not just that 200,000 that are fighting in Ukraine but millions more in logistics and construction that is transforming Russia South. Crimea is not just wines and agriculture but creating high quality perfume. have you thought about why that US backed Afghan government collapsed so fast. because they wanted to humiliate some one and still that government officials fled towards Arab world. Arabs can collapse Pakistan into Afghanitan much faster and than use the resulting force to destroy what is left of countries of post Soviet states. and this will be consistent with Arab interests of whole world depending on Arab resources and if some one try to interfere against Arab interests than it will face the largest alliance in the world from right wing of West to India.
This is Maduro meeting Lavrov not just as Russian official but representative of OPEC+. there are both western aligned and non western aligned states inside OPEC+ and they are far better than Russians in maintaining Venezuela western infrastructure. OPEC+ is not just maintaining oil prices but ideological alignment of key states.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648504687274983424
 
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