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[taxiya]

As a tankie, I must say the ambassador in France must be replaced. He routinely says weird things that also don't conform with China's official policies. China borders 3 post-Soviet states and does recognize borders as they are now. Discussing their borders like this is a bad move.

Remember Fu Cong's reported wording about China's altitude to Russia? If so many Chinese high level diplomats "making" controversial comments, I seriously doubt they said anything that the western media "report" they said. Their words are taken out of context to fit the west's agenda.

Regarding what the ambassador said about Crimea, let's go back to Kosovo. Kosovo was recognized as Serbian territory before NATO bombing of Serbia, Kosovo then got "independent" and recognized by almost all EU countries including the Baltic three and France. So why can't Crimean Russians get the very same right as the Kosovans? Why don't the French and Baltics argue for the territorial integrity of Serbia? Why can't Chinese ambassador point out the fact that "Crimea was transferred from Russia to Ukraine during USSR era".

This ambassador will serve his full term and will not apologise for anything, either because he did nothing wrong from China's official policy, or if he did break the policy but China is letting him to tell the west that China is not going to uphold a principle that is already broken by the west. Mao once said "人不犯我我不犯人, 人若犯我我必犯人", that means "I will do the exact same thing done to me". China is not going to foolishly adhere to a policy that has been repeatedly violated by the west.

 

[taxiya]

I would actually be ok with the ambassador's comments if he specifically mentioned that they only applied to the anti-China Eastern Europe countries. Lithuania is top on that list. Putin is more than welcome to take that country

From my point of view, if you don't support China's Taiwan position, you don't deserve to be given the "sovereign" status and all of its corresponding benefits (mainly that, in a future Chinese world order, China won't let you get invaded by others)

As for hypocrisy about China deciding who is sovereign, the strong rule in the jungle lol.

What makes his statement problematic is the fact that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are not the only post-Soviet states.

When EU begins to mess around with China, China will be happy to see door to the hell wide open for the messers. Ambassadors are not Judge in the court, they are representing the countries interests which isn't exactly matter of words on a piece of paper. Call China hypocrite as they will, we have been calling the west for so long and it didn't work.

 

[kwaigonegin]

And how are the Y-20As getting refuelled exactly?

Just send 8 Y-20s to Djibouti international airport, and begin ferrying people over. Hopefully just 6 sorties (6x Y-20 with 2 reserve in Djibouti) will sort it all out.

Can possibly swap Djibouti for Egypt, Ethiopia or a suitably friendly and safe nation.

8 Y-20s with big PRC flags on vert stabs would be great PR and optics (I can already see the copium headlines now)… of course this all requires some stability on the ground and a safe corridor from Khartoum to Port Sudan.

(if I had it my way, the Hainan would’ve set sail over a week ago too).

The lack of MAR on the Y20 was a serious design flaw imho.

 

[Africablack]

Remember Fu Cong's reported wording about China's altitude to Russia? If so many Chinese high level diplomats "making" controversial comments, I seriously doubt they said anything that the western media "report" they said. Their words are taken out of context to fit the west's agenda.

Regarding what the ambassador said about Crimea, let's go back to Kosovo. Kosovo was recognized as Serbian territory before NATO bombing of Serbia, Kosovo then got "independent" and recognized by almost all EU countries including the Baltic three and France. So why can't Crimean Russians get the very same right as the Kosovans? Why don't the French and Baltics argue for the territorial integrity of Serbia? Why can't Chinese ambassador point out the fact that "Crimea was transferred from Russia to Ukraine during USSR era".

This ambassador will serve his full term and will not apologise for anything, either because he did nothing wrong from China's official policy, or if he did break the policy but China is letting him to tell the west that China is not going to uphold a principle that is already broken by the west. Mao once said "人不犯我我不犯人, 人若犯我我必犯人", that means "I will do the exact same thing done to me". China is not going to foolishly adhere to a policy that has been repeatedly violated by the west.

I can only hope it's a case of his words taken out of context because if he really said that then it's not a good look. You don't question sovereignty of recognized countries, that will give ammo to western countries.

 

[montyp165]

I can only hope it's a case of his words taken out of context because if he really said that then it's not a good look. You don't question sovereignty of recognized countries, that will give ammo to western countries.

The big thing that needs to be considered is that the US and it's vassals having undermining sovereignty against non-western countries (Iran in particular was the most recent example of this in action, let alone China et al), which is why countries not inside the western sphere pushing back against the western determinations of political sovereignty does make sense.

 

[daifo]

I would actually be ok with the ambassador's comments if he specifically mentioned that they only applied to the anti-China Eastern Europe countries. Lithuania is top on that list. Putin is more than welcome to take that country

From my point of view, if you don't support China's Taiwan position, you don't deserve to be given the "sovereign" status and all of its corresponding benefits (mainly that, in a future Chinese world order, China won't let you get invaded by others)

As for hypocrisy about China deciding who is sovereign, the strong rule in the jungle lol.

China's non-interference policy should only apply to others who do not interfere. Should be mutual. I also find it really annoying that the western press seems to give headline to no-body states... like "oh no lithuana with low economic output, low outlook, low population thinks negatively of China or China must do x , y and z!"

 

[taxiya]

I can only hope it's a case of his words taken out of context because if he really said that then it's not a good look.

If you begin to give consideration to that "if" based on the western report, you already loose. That is why most of non-west countries are always loosing for the past hundreds years. China being the exception is precisely because we had Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping and now Xi Jinping who don't give a fuck of what the west says/looks/likes.

You don't question sovereignty of recognized countries, that will give ammo to western countries.

Sovereignty of one is conditional on mutual respect. All Axis countries' sovereignty were "violated" by Allies, there was nothing wrong about that, at least in the eyes of the Allies including China. So if any country joins a military alliance threatening another country's existence, they have put their own existence in question. This is not only about NATO vs. Russia, but also US, Japan, SK vs. China. China is making her position understood.

 

[BoraTas]

Definitely happening, Pompeo's think tank

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

The stability of the economy takes priority and they were not going to gamble with higher stakes in 2014 on the existential crisis scale. Then there is issues with PR within Russia because a lot of people did not consider Ukraine to be enemies. Going all in during 2014 without domestic justification would create more pro-western tools and liberal puppets.

That is one of the reasons why the Russians took so long in targeting their infrastructure. Ukraine didn’t help themselves by slowly outing themselves as Nazis and killing civilians in Donbas for 8 years pre-conflict. Not to mention the purge and arrest of the Orthodox Church about 3 weeks ago. Plus assassinations and raids against civilians targets within Russia.

As for the NATO backed Ukrainians threatening to take Crimea soon. If anyone remembers, Russia was banging the pots and pans on the international stage that the Ukrainians were planning something against the Donbas several months before the SMO began.

In any case, the current situation is more ideal than the unknown one. Everyone here would be screeching if Russia imploded over a miscalculation and now a 100k NATO “security force” is sitting on the Northern borders of China instead. IMO, I think the current situation is more than satisfying from a geopolitical and national security POV for China.



At least they admit that resupplying Taiwan would be impossible. Western armchair generals will be coping

Calling boy geopolitical and geography genius with a PhD @abc123 read the new CNAS/Congressional report on their pseudo arm chair generalship again which EMPHASIZE YET AGAIN THAT ONCE THE WAR IN TAIWAN STARTS THE U.S. WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPLY TAIWAN ARMS PHILIPPINES OR NO PHILIPPINES. DO SOME ACTUAL READING OTHER THAN REGURGITATING BULLSHIT AND TRYING TO AGITATE PEOPLE LIKE WE'RE ILLITERATE MONKEYS.

 

[Phead128]

Can you elaborate on why waiting is beneficial for China ?

As time passes Chinese capabilities will grow, sure, but so will enemy's military preparedness I assume.

So long as Taiwan has no nukes, no US bases/troops, they can prepare for another 70 years, China will still crush them. The nice thing is another 70 years later, China will be mature, industrialized, economy, by far bigger than US, and assured superiority in local conflict on China's doorsteps, further ensuring US staying out. Before 2027, US still has advantages in economy and navy/air force, so there are some risks and uncertainty. Plus, to conquer Taiwan by 2027 needs to literally blow everything up and restart from scratch (see Ukraine war), so what China gains is an expensive rebuild on top of a disrupted growth story.