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[Chevalier]

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gradually, the elites of the west come round to the idea that China…might actually be good at science, innovation and maths?

The trend of dedollarisartion is increasing

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648304290564546561

Its sad but thats how the world works, especially geopolitics. Palestine's future is indeed grim

Fair or unfair, laws or no laws, territorial integrity, history, sovereignty etc. Nothing matters. Its all about strength. The number 1 rule in this world, the only law that exists, is strength. If you are strong, grab it, if you are weak, "ally" with a strong one to protect you.

The gardener wasn't that wrong when he said about how the rest of the world is a jungle. The only mistake he made, is that EU is also in that world jungle, its just that its position is as the private and exclusive garden of the top predator in the jungle.

The concept of Vae Victus also applies to those who believe their time in the sun is forever, and to those who believes themselves to be Gods Chosen.
For example, under the Anglo concept of terra nulliu, the PRC can also lay claim to the continents of Australia, North America and New Zealand by force of arms under the concept of Vae Victus, and history shows, Chinese are much much more effective at assimilation than anglos obsessed with blood purity

 

[tygyg1111]

And this is an actual report from US DoJ
Somebody is desperate for a promotion

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No words.....

 

[Minm]

Palestine's future is indeed grim

The sad fact is that it's not in anyone's interest to support Palestinians, including China. Israel is the more useful partner. But they represent a huge opportunity. If China can pressure Palestinians to support a two state solution in which they get the West Bank as their country in exchange for Saudi and Iranian recognition of Israel, then Israel won't be dependent on the US anymore and will also move towards China.

Of course that requires putting on them. If China helps Syria and Lebanon to become powerful again it might might force Israel to negotiate. There's little hope for help from Egypt under the current leadership. But now that Assad is returning to the Arab mainstream, China should give him air defence and reconstruction. Get NATO forces and Israeli planes out of Syria and talks might become possible

 

[Virtup]

I mean you can disagree all you want, but we have living proof of it, the Abraham Accords.

The Arabs won't do anything against the Israel unless it takes visible action against Palestine like outright invasion.

However, Israel won't do that, it will keep building settlements, displacing Palestinians slowly and the Arabs will simply turn a blind eye towards this. They may shout some empty slogans, but no real strategic action against Israel will happen.

So, lets see how Palestine will look like in 2040, 2050.
Here is this map again for reference:
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You still underestimate the religious importance of Palestine for muslims. Let me explain:
The Abraham accords involve UAE and Bahrein. UAE was already considered an outcast and looked down upon by most of the Muslim world (they're actually treated as a meme in most of North Africa and the middle east, since Islam encourages being austere, humble and not wasting resources, the opposite of what they're doing, SA too but to a lesser degree).
Morocco recently recognised Israel as well in exchange of US recognition of western desert. This earned them their government the combined Ire of nearly all of Africa plus some internal instability. So yes in some Arab countries public opinion doesnt matter BUT, even then Israel will never have all of Palestine, simply because of AL AQSA mosque, one of the most important holy sites in Islam. It is the reddest of red lines for your average muslim because losing it while doing nothing dooms them to eternal torment in hell. If you know some history about the cruusades (and religious warsin general) you'll understand what that entails.
You are absolutely right that strength is what absolutely matters in the end. The Arabs couldn't do anything about Israel in the past because it had the support of the US. The absolute hegemon at the time (and no USSR didn't counter-balance them in the region), but they still tried, in the face of impossible odds (Israel was never in danger of losing all those wars because the US supported them). And now that the west is finally starting to fall apart and China, a neutral party, is replacing them that's about to change.
The muslims are like sharks smelling blood, and the fact that they're willing to put their differences aside is a clear sign of that. In fact, as I'm writing this, the situation in Palestine is being discussed on National TV.
Sorry for the long post. The Palestine issue is extremely complicated and probably desrves its own thread.

 

[Tse]

I mean you can disagree all you want, but we have living proof of it, the Abraham Accords.

The Arabs won't do anything against the Israel unless it takes visible action against Palestine like outright invasion.

However, Israel won't do that, it will keep building settlements, displacing Palestinians slowly and the Arabs will simply turn a blind eye towards this. They may shout some empty slogans, but no real strategic action against Israel will happen.

So, lets see how Palestine will look like in 2040, 2050.
Here is this map again for reference:
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wasn't the Abraham accords and the other parts of the Sunni-Israeli detente the result of MBS looking for help against Qatar and Iran? most of that factor is gone now, why do they need Israel anymore?

 

[Stierlitz]

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Maybe, I mean maybe something exciting could actually happen?

Eh I wouldn't stick my head in that beehive.

Besides Israelis don't really have an incentive to negotiate. As long as they enjoy support from the U.S. and EU, they are good. They would perhaps be willing to negotiate if they were to become a pariah state like South Africa in the late 1980s. But considering how strong the influence of zionist lobby groups like AIPAC and FOII is over D.C. and Brussels, it is obvious that is never going to happen.

 

[Virtup]

Eh I wouldn't stick my head in that beehive.

Besides Israelis don't really have an incentive to negotiate. As long as they enjoy support from the U.S. and EU, they are good. They would perhaps be willing to negotiate if they were to become a pariah state like South Africa in the late 1980s. But considering how strong the influence of zionist lobby groups like AIPAC and FOII is over D.C. and Brussels, it is obvious that is never going to happen.

Exactly, Israel acts belligrent towards Arabs because they have the support of EU and US, the current hegemons. They'll have to negotiate or face annihilation when their supporters start to collapse, but that's extremely unlikely to happen before 2030 IMO.
I think China should still try regardless, just for the sake of appearing as doing their best to spread peace (contrary to the west), but with the expectation that it wont succeed.
In case peace negotiations remain impossible, I fully expect China to sacrifice 15 million people for the sake of having good relations with 1.3 billion more (with territories rich in resources).

 

[vincent]

Don't shoot the messenger. Its reality that Chinese nationals and companies have blatantly stolen IP and its real perception of some Americans in tech. Just as other races get "stereotyped" in the US, Chinese are stereotyped as potential IP thieft.

Pathetic

 

[Overbom]

I think China should still try regardless, just for the sake of appearing as doing their best to spread peace (contrary to the west), but with the expectation that it wont succeed.
In case peace negotiations remain impossible, I fully expect China to sacrifice 15 million people for the sake of having good relations with 1.3 billion more (with territories rich in resources).

In fact, China is already supporting Palestine rhetorically. Any time China puts a statement about tensions between Israel - Palestine it almost always slightly blames Israel while not saying anything about Palestinians making knife/bomb/rocket attacks etc.

You should see Israel's strategic community foaming from their mouth everytime a new China-Arab statement comes out basically blaming Israel lol

That's the most China would do, rhetorical and narrative support for Palestine. If Palestine needs something more, it needs to show its worth.

Can it show that is dear to all Muslims? While the public doesn't matter strategically, its still very valuable for an upcoming superpower. If Palestine plays its hand smartly, and if Israel missteps (get even closer to the US and more anti-China), don't be surprised if China throws Israel under the bus

So while Palestine needs to worry about Israel's continuous salami slicing against it, Israel also has to worry that China doesn't decide to sacrifice it in order to gain the sympathy of Muslims from all around the world

 

[Temstar]

So what do we think Yellen will say tomorrow?

From her position it would make sense for the speech to call for economic reconciliation, but then she'll surely be target of attack on every side. I find it difficult to imagine why she would stick her neck out like this. But she announcing a major speech is already quite unusual.