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Brigadier
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I am maybe overanalyzing it but this balloon incident is evidence of the US being a sh*tshow on multiple levels.

1- Why they couldn't shut it down before it entered their airspace and was floating throughout the country? If it was an ISR platform, they spectacularly failed. If it was not, then they shot down a harmless civilian aircraft. The latter is likely the case.

2- The US military's reaction was absurd. How many sorties did they launch? We don't know. But we know they had 3 tankers in patrol most of the time. That is a lot of flight hours flown by a lot of aircraft. It feels like middle-ranking commanders are trying to get promoted by showing their merits. This shouldn't be the case. Using national resources to advance your career is corruption.

3- It feels like the Biden admin and Pentagon were against having talks with China. They needed a scapegoat to indefinitely postpone the meeting and look tough (looking tough is the holy grail of modern anglosphere politics). But thanks to Republicans being tougher and the hysteria of Americans it backfired. The leadership had to make a lot of statements and they had to shoot it down finally. Now they have even worse relations with China, likely lost votes, and made the US look like an idiot. This is just my opinion. You may disagree.

4- Politicians and some common people who are celebrating the shooting down of the balloon... They are funny. This whole event had to be a non-event. It blew out of proportion because the US media is a reality show and American politics are extremely polarized. Any rationality dies in minutes because of these. Also, politicians and media figures trying to get popular by glorifying the military feels very 3rd world. That usually happens in the third world. Republicans who are doing that are especially funny considering they hate the government otherwise.
In the late Ming Dynasty, which is the only country I am talking about and in the hypothetical, you had the following situation:

1. crushing tax burden used to pay for a massive yet ineffective military
2. backwards looking ministers trying to recreate the 'good old days'
3. multiple secret police agencies monitoring each other (Jinyiwei, Eastern Depot, Western Depot)
4. rulers more interested in looking tough than in actual governance
5. caught in a bankrupting war against a foreign power (Japan) invading a vassal state (Korea). while Japan was eventually repelled, it was never punished and would try again later.
6. overprinting of money led to disconnect between reported revenue and purchasing power, then hyperinflation
7. nominally 0 corruption, reality huge corruption and low government efficiency
8. extreme arrogance and believed the outside world had nothing to offer

This is just history. Unrelated to modern day events at all. Yeah.
 

Temstar

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But as it wafted through US skies before being shot down Saturday off of the Carolinas, the balloon created a sudden moment when the idea of a threat by China to the US homeland was neither distant, theoretical, unseen, or years in the future. And it underscored how in today’s polarized America, Washington’s first reaction in the face of a threat is to point fingers rather than unify.
According to the Americans, we've just went through the Sputnik Crisis of our age. Imagine teaching your kids about events of last weekend.
 

SDtom

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China Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed that a civilian airship, used for flight tests, deviated far from its planned course and entered into Latin America and Caribbean airspace. The airship was affected by climate and with limited self-steering capability.

If China wants to be good at PR then it should openly offer to cooperate with countries that the balloon have transited. China should offer joint recovery operation with experts from those countries and show them that the balloon is just a weather balloon.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
First of all, it's been a horrible last 60+ pages with nothing but the balloon. I've basically had to compromise between skipping everything because it's just a balloon and reading everything for the possibility of there being actually important other news buried in there so I've had to randomly jump 3-5 pages per read...
I wonder if previous balloon flyovers were untouched because the USAF had equipment capable of either jamming or eavesdropping on the SIGINT equipment on the balloons. They could've gleaned valuable data from the Chinese balloons without tipping Beijing off about the US' knowledge of them.
LOLOL Nice cope. And every spy mission the US ever tried on China has resulted in the Chinese returning false data, gleaning information on US spying platforms and corrupting American assets to become double agents for Beijing.
 

KYli

Brigadier
If China wants to be good at PR then it should openly offer to cooperate with countries that the balloon have transited. China should offer joint recovery operation with experts from those countries and show them that the balloon is just a weather balloon.
How naive this is? If it is a weather balloon, do you think other countries don't know about it. Most countries don't care except 5 eyes and a few of their allies. US wants to hype the threat of China but ends up making a fool out of itself.

Now the US is under a full blown damage control by claiming nonsense such as China's meteorology minister is fired or the shooting down of the balloon has been a victory and humiliated China. There is so much insecurity that it is not funny anymore.
 
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