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foxmulder

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Seriously, dude? If the IAF flies its Rustom drones over sensitive military sites in China, you'd expect the latter to sit on its ass and not do a thing about it because of "international law" (whatever that means)?

The cognitive dissonance on this forum is astounding at times.

You cannot down civilian crafts if they do not possess a thread. PERIOD! Go research if you don't believe me. Please dont write about things you dont know.
 

Tse

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Hidden inside this article prioritizing lunatic opinions like Bolton's, the only actual US balloon expert they consulted says that wind conditions in the Northern hemisphere winter is the least feasible time to steer a balloon, and it is almost impossible for the balloon's minimal steering to target any specific location to move to. It's just a pity that some American shills prefer to believe their McCarthyist politicians. And it's a pity we have to bear with their existence on this thread
 

siegecrossbow

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The balloon is almost certainly a SIGINT platform, so every second it is left in the air is time that the US is allowing it to gather more critical data, hence the urgency to shoot it down. Destroying it is necessary as a defensive measure.

And I don't think the US needs to justify shooting it down despite the military necessity to do so. It is an adversarial military platform operating in the US' national airspace for crying out loud.

Let's do a fun thought experiment here. Suppose, for a second, that the roles were reversed. A U.S. weather balloon strayed into Chinese air space around Lunar New Year and traveled all the way down the eastern sea coast from Heilongjiang to Hainan. On the day of the Lantern Festival a Chinese airliner suddenly spotted the intruding balloon and all the media in China from Global Times to Xinhua started blasting hysterics about American Imperialist aggression, with Hu Xijin leading the charge on both Weibo and Twitter. They scrambled dozens of J-20s to survey the stupid thing and failed to knock it down and right when it cleared the sea coast in Hainan, a J-20 finally dispatches the damn thing with a PL-10. And after that every stickied video on Douyin and Bilibili shows high def videos of the J-20 shooting down a balloon for 48 hours. Tell me, would you consider that competent handling of the situation by the SeeSeePee or would you actually laugh at them like you usually do?
 

MortyandRick

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I wonder if previous balloon flyovers were untouched because the USAF had equipment capable of either jamming or eavesdropping on the SIGINT equipment on the balloons. They could've gleaned valuable data from the Chinese balloons without tipping Beijing off about the US' knowledge of them.
The balloon is almost certainly a SIGINT platform, so every second it is left in the air is time that the US is allowing it to gather more critical data, hence the urgency to shoot it down. Destroying it is necessary as a defensive measure.

And I don't think the US needs to justify shooting it down despite the military necessity to do so. It is an adversarial military platform operating in the US' national airspace for crying out loud.
Talk about cognitive dissonance, looks like you're just being hypocritical and contradicting yourself.

Tell me if the USAF can jam the balloon and eavesdrop on the SIGINT equipment on the balloons then why the urgency to shoot it down? You said that every second that's it is in the US, it's getting valuable information, then basically means the US can't jam it?

If every second it's in the air, it gains valuable information on the US, the why didn't the US shoot it down in Alaska? When it was supposedly discovered on Jan 27 or 28, according to the Americans, why did it take Blinken another week to cancel his trip to China? Why wasn't he angry enough earlier to cancel the trip? Last I heard, Alaska was part of the US. Their reason for not shooting down the balloon with urgency was safety? But there's large swaths of land in Saskatchewan and Midwest with no people, why didn't they shoot it down with "urgency" then?

So many questions and the US regime's response and answers are laughable and inconsistent.

What most likely happened was the US 850 billion dollar military didn't detect the weather balloon and it was discovered by average citizens. Once they found out it was form china, they tried to act tough and save face. That's why they made a lot of retroactive comments which doesn't make sense and are j consistent. That's the most likely situation.

But sure go ahead and try to perform mental gymnastics to make sense of US comments and actions.
 

horse

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I thought it was all a propaganda show.

Give credit to the Americans! Their propaganda is quite entertaining!

Let's face it, none of us is going to forget this balloon show!

We will remember this forever, because we were laughing for days!

Some of us have not laughed this hard for this long!


When the balloon was over Idaho, and the Americans sent three spy planes and two F-22 (which has spying ability), to check it out, then decided not to shoot it down - then that is all we needed to know about what spying capability that balloon had!

In Idaho, that balloon was still a curiosity, and slightly amusing.

After the intercepts, the propaganda show started.

By then, the American political machine got into it, then the people got into it, the military had to get into it again, the press having a field day like an OJ Simpson trial, this was a hoot!

Then President Trump got into against President Biden, which of course triggered people, which in turn triggered more people.

Even trigger the PRC who issued a statement! LOL!

Seems like the Chinese foreign ministry were the only ones not laughing at all of this, lol.

Guess they do their jobs.

:D
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Let's do a fun thought experiment here. Suppose, for a second, that the roles were reversed. A U.S. weather balloon strayed into Chinese air space around Lunar New Year and traveled all the way down the eastern sea coast from Heilongjiang to Hainan. On the day of the Lantern Festival a Chinese airliner suddenly spotted the intruding balloon and all the media in China from Global Times to Xinhua started blasting hysterics about American Imperialist aggression, with Hu Xijin leading the charge on both Weibo and Twitter. They scrambled dozens of J-20s to survey the stupid thing and failed to knock it down and right when it cleared the sea coast in Hainan, a J-20 finally dispatches the damn thing with a PL-10. And after that every stickied video on Douyin and Bilibili shows high def videos of the J-20 shooting down a balloon for 48 hours. Tell me, would you consider that competent handling of the situation by the SeeSeePee or would you actually laugh at them like you usually do?
you forgot 1 more thing: imagine a user named murica_souljahB0i_420 on this forum with a hammer/sickle flag for their avatar, calling the shootdown "a great victory over fascist invaders", demonstrating both "the great urgency in neutralizing imperialist recon assets with concern for the lives and property of the citizenry" and simultaneously saying "this recon asset was certainly being jammed and under surveillance so it gained zero useful info, there is no hurry to destroy it". Wonder what his reaction would've been to that.
 

coolgod

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China fires head of weather service over spy balloon fiasco​

Beijing removes its top meteorologist in an apparent attempt to shift blame over the device, which the US shot down
Zhuang Guotai, the head of the China Meteorological Administration, was removed from his position, it emerged on Sunday.
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气球门?免去中国气象局局长庄国泰职务​

2023年1月18日,政协甘肃省十三届一次会议举行第三次全体会议,庄国泰当选为政协甘肃省第十三届委员会主席。

2023年2月3日,国务院任免国家工作人员,免去庄国泰的中国气象局局长职务。
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Comrade Zhuang isn't even retiring, he just got promoted to 政协甘肃省第十三届委员会主席.
Shhh ;)
 
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China fires head of weather service over spy balloon fiasco​

Beijing removes its top meteorologist in an apparent attempt to shift blame over the device, which the US shot down

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气球门?免去中国气象局局长庄国泰职务​


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Comrade Zhuang isn't even retiring, he just got promoted to 政协甘肃省第十三届委员会主席.
Shhh ;)
He got demoted upwards.
 
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