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The War in the Ukraine
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From an article in the "Guardian" in March about the drone that crashed in Zagreb, quote:
A drone that flew undetected over several Nato countries from Ukraine crashed overnight in the Croatian capital, Zagreb, triggering a loud blast but causing no injuries, Croatian authorities have said.
The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said it was clear the drone came from Ukraine.
The large drone flew for at least 560km apparently undetected by air defences in Croatia, Hungary and Romania, all members of the western military alliance.
The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said “the serious incident” must be thoroughly investigated to determine “how a relatively unsophisticated drone flew for over an hour over Nato countries without being detected”.
He said that the drone crashed in Zagreb after running out of fuel.
Military experts of the War Zone online magazine said the aircraft was likely to have been a Soviet-era Tu-141 Strizh drone that must have severely malfunctioned. It said Ukraine was the only known operator of the Tu-141.
The Ukrainian defence ministry adviser, Markian Lubkivskiy, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as denying the drone was Ukrainian. He put the blame for the incident on Russia.
“This drone did not have Ukrainian markings,” he was quoted as saying. “There were red stars on it” – a symbol of the Russian military.
The Russian embassy in Zagreb said the drone was made in Ukraine and that Russian forces had stopped using Tu-141s since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.
A drone that flew undetected over several Nato countries from Ukraine crashed overnight in the Croatian capital, Zagreb, triggering a loud blast but causing no injuries, Croatian authorities have said.
The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said it was clear the drone came from Ukraine.
The large drone flew for at least 560km apparently undetected by air defences in Croatia, Hungary and Romania, all members of the western military alliance.
The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said “the serious incident” must be thoroughly investigated to determine “how a relatively unsophisticated drone flew for over an hour over Nato countries without being detected”.
He said that the drone crashed in Zagreb after running out of fuel.
Military experts of the War Zone online magazine said the aircraft was likely to have been a Soviet-era Tu-141 Strizh drone that must have severely malfunctioned. It said Ukraine was the only known operator of the Tu-141.
The Ukrainian defence ministry adviser, Markian Lubkivskiy, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as denying the drone was Ukrainian. He put the blame for the incident on Russia.
“This drone did not have Ukrainian markings,” he was quoted as saying. “There were red stars on it” – a symbol of the Russian military.
The Russian embassy in Zagreb said the drone was made in Ukraine and that Russian forces had stopped using Tu-141s since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.
Well, some guns cannot fire at all like the Zumwalt-class destroyer main guns because they don't have any ammo for it...
Globalization have made a lot of weapons relying on foreign sources for parts and ammo. Sourcing of cheaper prices for materials and employes just do a mess when ties and supply routes are broken. A lot's of manufacturing industry that have gone abroad.
According to this guy, apparently one of the key ingredients of making cannon shells, gun cotton, is mostly produced by China and the export of which is controlled. It also have other uses. There is a question whether the West can procure enough if we are to ramp up production of cannon shells. The West can divert can divert gun cotton from other usages to make cannon shells, but that would leave other industries short of this stuff.
Seems like Putin visit to the Donbas is moving ahead and may happen soon. The Kremlin said that a couple days ago. Now I do wonder if the Ukrainians will try to kill him or will they do nothing. Interesting that Putin would choose to visit the Donbas given that it’s still close to the front.
Ukraine has access to radar sensing satellite imagery. Cloud cover poses no obstacle.
It's not a supersonic drone and Croatia and Hungary don't have IADS where it flew over but a Russian airbase with nuke bombers only 500km's from Ukraine border should be protected by advanced IADS.
They can certainly make it but various entrenched interests prevent it. it same lack of drones in Europe that East Europeans have to buy TB2.
Key Points:
- 2/3 of Americans support sanctions, and 3/4s of Americans support accepting refugees and sanctioning Russia
- Republicans backing aid to Ukraine has slipped from 80% to 55%
- 47% of Americans say Washington should push Kyiv to reach a peace agreement soon
- A plurality of Republicans want a gradual withdrawal of US support from Ukraine
- Around a third of Democrats say Ukraine has the advantage, compared with 23 percent of Republicans and 22 percent of independents. Overall, 46 percent of respondents think neither Ukraine nor Russia has the advantage.