Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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4channer

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There is absolutely zero gain for China in taking one of the islands. One of the best Chinese wisdom is 抓主要矛盾 seizing the main conflict. The main issue is always the US military presense in west pacific. Defeat the US, all these islands, even Japan and SK, will be free of the US influence. Taking the islands will only give the US more excuses to demonize China.
Demonizing China? They have been doing that for decades! The gain will be huge: Pelosi visit backfired and costed Taiwan heavily. Taiwanese will have to accept the fact that the peaceful reintegration of the main island is their best option and the only reasonable option left!
 

clockwork

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Well, I'll be... we finally found something you don't know.
Was about to say that seems like the first seriously questionable thing I've heard him say.

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Sure China hasn't been on LoW up to now, due to a combination of having a small silo based force, liquid fueled missiles, and lacking the infrastructure, but aren't all indications that they're moving to adopt that in tandem with the expansion?

Are you saying China would adopt a large silo-based force but NOT LoW? And compensate for that with a large number of decoy silos? Even then that doesn't provide second strike because the US has more than enough warheads to strike all the silos. I see basically 0 reason not to adopt it if your missiles are solid fueled, and you have the infrastructure.

I think what they should do, if building enough DF-41/45s to fill all of them is a problem, is fill a portion with smaller/easier to produce missiles, whether something like the DF-31AG or the Midgetman that can only carry 1 warhead, that I'd be okay with.
 
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el pueblo unido

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Demonizing China? They have been doing that for decades! The gain will be huge: Pelosi visit backfired and costed Taiwan heavily. Taiwanese will have to accept the fact that the peaceful reintegration of the main island is their best option and the only reasonable option left!
That Scenario is under the assumption that there are still "Reasonable" people at politically important positions left who let's be honest if smart enough would have rejected the meeting with the old hag, however, under the current Tsai regime, there is only "we will fight to the last Taiwanese"
 

texx1

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The border situation with Indian is contained for now with no shots fired. China and India are still doing business despite the restrictions.
Actually the US would be more involved with India since it’s a sovereign nation and India would be guaranteed to use weapons and intel provided by the US in an ongoing war with China, a major protracted proxy war. US can’t do much if China takes one of Taiwan’s islands and Taiwan simply can’t fight a war of attrition like India. Don’t forget we are talking about fighting both at the same time in your scenario not one or the other. Also don‘t count on Pakistan’s current government.

China is still doing business with India despite being economically attacked by India. No wonder all of those China/India border meetings never result in any agreements. Why would India stop making unjust demands?

US would still sanction PRC over taking outlying Taiwanese islands. Why risk overwhelming sanctions and likely asset seizure over such small payoff? If war broke out over Taiwan with US, PRC should go big or go home instead of following Russian half-hearted attempt in Ukraine. We can all see how that's going.

US would still supply Taiwan with intel and military aids carried by US flagged ships even when PRC chose to only attack Taiwanese arm forces in hope of limiting the scale of the conflict.
 

yrydzd

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Demonizing China? They have been doing that for decades! The gain will be huge: Pelosi visit backfired and costed Taiwan heavily. Taiwanese will have to accept the fact that the peaceful reintegration of the main island is their best option and the only reasonable option left!

What part of MORE excuses don't you understand? Taiwan doesn't want these rocks anyway cause they are part of Fujian province and a roadbloack to TAIWAN independence. China has the moral high ground right now, and hitting Taiwan will be seen as unnecessarily aggressive. If anything has to be hit by a rocket, then let it be Guam instead.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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What?? All you need to make tritium is to irradiate lithium with neutrons in any nuclear reactor.

There's any number of ways to make a nuclear weapon, but I don't think China is or should be interested in third rate DIY stuff. It can just make weapons grade plutonium, it's not that difficult.

The SWU of enrichment capacity is good, but better is the excellent rate of growth it's undergone. Let's hope that continues.
U only designs are less compact but are harder to detect both for startup and operation, especially if there's already existing civil enrichment programs. There's also the substantial fixed capital savings from not having to build new reactors. Compare Pakistani program to North Korean. Pakistan went with the U enrichment path, flew under the radar until it already was 99% done. North Korea went with Pu breeding, got caught pretty much instantly.

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as well, so it's not like this is a serious downgrade, it is what Chinese designers 100% knew. Note that it was a miniaturized airdrop device test, not a stationary setup like Ivy Mike.
 
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