Ukrainian War Developments

[noone536]

Well, I am not keen on attacking India for whatever reasons other than a defensive war, If that country chooses to attack China for whatever reasons. And the only time I am for war is if there's no other choice other than to fight against any enemy. And if China has to fight, it has to fight with overwhelming power, with unrelenting pursuit to defeat any enemies that the only option for them is to surrender or annihilation.

you should of told china this during both Korea war and the north Vietnam war..... lol

also on a side note no need to argue about testing javelin capabilities because their is a high chance that both Russia and china have already got their hands in one. the javelin being around for a long time and being in active wars. would be a heck of a incompetence by their intelligent community not to get it. i still remember America CIA were offering $5,000 for an Russia ak during afghan conflict.

i also wonder if watching all this t-80 tank being easily destroy will change the mind of the PLA in regard to the type 96B production just like how the 1st Iraq war changes PLA tanks doctrine.

 

[LCR34]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502966264548974595

Look who showed up at Kiev!

I dont get why so many high ranking officers endanger themselves at the frontline.

 

[Temstar]

I dont get why so many high ranking officers endanger themselves at the frontline.

It's bit of an old Russian tradition. I too think it's a bit silly but it's probably good for morale.

 

[SinoSoldier]

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This man is Minister of Defense of Ukraine, he confirmed there were foreign instructors. I suppose he could be lying to try to get NATO involved. We will have to see if NATO has something to say about this.

Based

"This is where American and other NATO instructors do the most training of Ukrainians. I was just there yesterday. It’s also right near the Polish border. Serious escalation on Russia’s part."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502914770202152969

This is quite the propaganda conundrum for NATO, isn't it? If they want to drum up the "Russia is bombing peacekeepers" spin, they'd have to tacitly admit that there is more NATO involvement in Ukraine than they would like to admit. If not, they'd have to cut their losses and move on. Can't have their cake and eat it too.

LOL...

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Perhaps some passionate folks in the US administration can get down on one knee, raise a fist (or a mock Javelin), and shout in unison "Ukrainian Lives Matter". Or better yet, ransack neighborhood businesses and set fire to their cities in the name of the ULM movement.

 

[Lethe]

Putin can occupy the country, but not win over the residents.

Russia's strategic interests in Ukraine don't require the country to have all that many residents. At this point, Putin would probably be quite happy for politically troublesome demographics to flee the country in disproportionate numbers. That can cause problems later if those outflows become a politically significant constituency that impairs future relations, as with Cubans in Florida being one of the major obstacles to improved USA-Cuba relations, but that is a problem for another day.

 

[SinoSoldier]

Putin can occupy the country, but not win over the residents.

Not needed when the main strategic objective is to prevent the country from being a staging ground for NATO missiles.

 

[Intrepid]

Russia's strategic interests in Ukraine don't require the country to have all that many residents.

That's probably true.

 

[Michaelsinodef]

This statement needs backup.

Too lazy to actually go and dig deep for it but iirc the badly shoot phone video of some ukranian yelling at russian troops that they have been waiting for 30 years or something like that.

Besides the above, there are quite a lot of ethnic russians in ukraine who has been quite badly treated by the ukranian gov (banning russian language in schools, azov etc.), so not hard to imagine some people being up in arms when Russia invaded.

But as I said earlier, majority most likely more 'neutral' (between wanting to take up arms and kill russians and cheering for the russians)

 

[noone536]

I don't get why so many high ranking officers endanger themselves at the frontline.

it usually mean the subordinate are not getting the job done. kind of like their a problem on the production line so the manager have to come down and try to macro manage to fix it.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

The Russian soldiers are not greeted as liberators. The soldiers expected this, but it didn't happen.

Or they showing only the videos that they want to show.

And generally, if the nationalis is the supported narrative, including in the military and palamilitary gourps, showing the support for Russia could ne up the civilians with bullets in they heads.

Check Odessa or Mariupol.