Ukrainian War Developments
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To be fair, both sides already played most of their effective cards. At this point, there is really nothing left to sanction,
Well, I am not keen on attacking India for whatever reasons other than a defensive war, If that country chooses to attack China for whatever reasons. And the only time I am for war is if there's no other choice other than to fight against any enemy. And if China has to fight, it has to fight with overwhelming power, with unrelenting pursuit to defeat any enemies that the only option for them is to surrender or annihilation.
This is more amusing than it should
I dont think generating daily 200 sorties for fighters show logistics problem or corruption when you look at overall context of entire aviation effort from transports to AWACS. by putting external fuel tanks on choppers. they are using it for deep strike. They are highly confident of reliability of systems to stress it with fuel tanks almost every Ka-52 and those are not from very developed fields so presumably near to the battlefield. bottom line is every thing is mobile and make shift.
than there is this concept of sending drone at speed of rocket instead of slow buzzing drone for highly dymanic targeting. they may similar capability without tube MLRS.
That's not entirely true. Go on to pubmed and see how many papers you'll find on vaccines for weaponised forms of biological agents (actually don't unless you want to end up on an FBI list). You won't find any, because no non-government sanctioned body will be anywhere near that. Very few countries around the world even have access to many of the pathogens being talked about, it is definitely NOT something that is global.
Biological weapons aren't like nuclear or chemical weapons where it is relatively clear what's permitted and what's prohibited. Like we saw with COVID, SARS, Spanish flu etc, a common pathogen that typically causes a mild respiratory disease can mutate into something a lot more deadly.
While there are a lot of very intelligent and highly qualified people from your part of the world, attitudes to health and safety are not up to western standards. I'd find it crazy that Americans would contract out ANY bioterrorism research to a foreign country, let alone one in Ukraine. In fact, I still think it's quite likely Nuland just misspoke because of how incompetent she is.
I'm afraid your opinion is a minority one here. We've had to endure some of the most absurd Alex Jones type accusations against China coming from both Trump and Biden administration. Even when WHO were permitted access, the allegations continued. Not only was it painful it lead to an upsurge in racist hate crimes in the west and around the world.
What parts of the speech did you find uncomfortable? I think both the Russian concerns and proposals were reasonable. The Slavic DNA harvesting aspect was odd, but I'd attribute that to vestigial Soviet era paranoia. I think a lot of older people in the Russian government do fear the idea a race virus could exist, and that won't go away until the older generation die off. But that doesn't address all the other points he made. If you're a Ukrainian, wouldn't be at least slightly concerned that your country may be used to research pathogens that could be potentially very dangerous? Bear in mind the last recorded case of smallpox was from an outbreak in a British lab.
It's largely a waste of time discussing this in the UN though. The Americans will 100% veto this proposal, but they can't veto domestic scrutiny. They will never let anyone look inside their labs like China agreed to.
I would stay away from commenting on any alleged casualty counts before the war is over. Accurate casualty counts are notoriously difficult to assess during a war and sometimes even after a war! Even this assessment has some issues:
- The Russian and Ukrainian figures are not counting the same thing (unless the translation is bad). Ukraine is releasing a KIA (Killed In Action) count and Russia is releasing a casualty count. Generally casualties is a much broader category that includes KIA, WIA (Wounded In Action), MIA (Missing In Action) and POW (Prisoner Of War).
- Do not assume that countries count casualties or present casualty statistics in the same manner. I will use a historical example from the IJA in WW2. In the Second Sino-Japanese War surviving statistical documents compiled by the IJA could have Japanese fatalities split into four different categories: Killed In Action (KIA), Died from Wounds, Died from Disease and Died from Other Causes (the documents never went into details about this category). But often times battlefield reports would only have the Killed In Action (KIA) category available or reported. The Died from Wounds, Died from Disease and Died from Other Causes categories would generally only appear in medical data and not the battlefield reports. The most extreme example of this is during the Battle of West Hunan where IJA medical data recorded ~1,000 fatalities from Killed In Action and Died from Wounds category, but another ~5,000 fatalities appeared in the Died from Disease category.
- The losing side often cannot get an accurate casualty figure. Lets say a 400 man battalion is defeated, how does the command of the losing side get an accurate casualty report? There is a real possibility that no casualty report reaches back to command. In this situation command has to make a choice of where to put the casualties; KIA, WIA, MIA or POW? Even if there are survivors from the defeated battalion there is no guarantee that they have an accurate picture of the casualties.
- Casualty counts for the same battle can differ based on when they get compiled.
- For example, in the Battle of Shanghai the Senshi Sosho lists Japanese KIA as 9,115 (this is based on surviving primary source documents). This is different from other sources that list ~18,000 KIA for the IJA. “The Diaries of the Commander of the 101st Division" gives 9,065 KIA with a division by division break down:
- 11 Division - 2,202 KIA
- 101 Division - 1,378 KIA
- 3 Division - 2,857 KIA
- 9 Division - 1,473 KIA
- 13 Division - 784 KIA
- Taiwan Garrison Brigade - 339 KIA
- Surviving primary source casualty records in the JACAR for the 9th Division and 13th Division contradicts the above breakdown and more than doubles the number fatalities (support for a ~18,000 KIA count):
- 9 Division - 4,562 Fatalities
- 13 Division - 1,853 Fatalities
- The most common explanation for the difference (besides lying) is that the casualty records for the 9th and 13th divisions were compiled after the Battle of Shanghai and that the ~9,000 KIA figures were based on immediate casualty statistics compiled during the battle.
- For example, in the Battle of Shanghai the Senshi Sosho lists Japanese KIA as 9,115 (this is based on surviving primary source documents). This is different from other sources that list ~18,000 KIA for the IJA. “The Diaries of the Commander of the 101st Division" gives 9,065 KIA with a division by division break down:
- Casualty documents do get destroyed during the war or documentation is poor. For example, the Japanese War Press released a ~80,000 KIA count in China from 1937-1941. Extrapolating to 1945 gives a ~160,000 KIA count. Post-war household surveys and studies by the Japanese government and academics found a range of 455,000-700,000 for fatalities. Essentially the military statistics by the IJA were missing hundreds of thousands of fatalities! It does not help that the IJA received and successfully carried out orders to destroy military documents before their surrender. I cannot stress this point enough, even if you went through all surviving IJA primary documents you would be unable to reach the 455,000-700,000 fatality figure that the post-war household surveys reached.
Damn there go someone apartment, they could even ended paying their mortgage this year and there were happy to own an apartment. War is hell.
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