Ukrainian War Developments
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REPORTER : How long should Americans expect, how long should we be bracing for this historic inflation and some unprecedented gas prices ?
KAMALA HARRIS : mmm...! ah.....! look at the map.
KAMALA HARRIS : mmm...! ah.....! look at the map.
With regards to the situation in Ukraine, considering the threat of drones and effective anti-armour weaponry, what is the best methodology of a significant formation approaching a city to surround it?
Does one do much probing and decoying prior to the main advance with smaller, but not to small forces, in combination with scouting ahead by both persons and drones? Does one combine this also with massive barrages of recon by fire at and near locations that one seeks to build successive forward operating bases?
It looks like in the first week of the war, especially in the North, the Russians assumed an easy victory, and just approached recklessly without probing, without adequate recon, and without adequate heavy artillery and close air support for their advancing columns.
Does one do much probing and decoying prior to the main advance with smaller, but not to small forces, in combination with scouting ahead by both persons and drones? Does one combine this also with massive barrages of recon by fire at and near locations that one seeks to build successive forward operating bases?
It looks like in the first week of the war, especially in the North, the Russians assumed an easy victory, and just approached recklessly without probing, without adequate recon, and without adequate heavy artillery and close air support for their advancing columns.
They will take nothing if they go in, it will be only rubbles from artillery. Starting to doubt what Russia want exactly at this point.
Chinese incels talk, German pimps walk.
As the Ukrainian refugees arriving at Germany, the young females and teenage girls among them are becoming targets and victims of pimps and sex offenders.
"According to German media on Mar 12, a 55 years old German male who is a known sex offender to the police, sets his target on the young Ukrainian women, promising to drive them to Hamburg. Two local men, one 29 years old, another 21, have been seen flirting with lone (Ukrianian) women or women with only small kids. Another pair of local men, 50 years old and 53 years old, respectively, gave money to female refugees and asked the women to go with them."
There are also bad guys disguised as volunteers (who provide shelters to the Ukrainian refugees), the German police authority warns. "There is a case where the victim is an exhaust Ukrainian woman. We have no other choice but issuing notice for eviction. We have many honest volunteers who want to help. On the other hand, there are also people who take advantage of others in the chaos."
"It would be better to have a registry of the voluteers who shelter the Ukrainian women." says Monika Cissek-Evans, a German social educator, "Unfortunately, there are people out there trying to exploit others, in particular those who are new to town. Be cautious. Don't become easy target to anyone, man or woman."
As the Ukrainian refugees arriving at Germany, the young females and teenage girls among them are becoming targets and victims of pimps and sex offenders.
"According to German media on Mar 12, a 55 years old German male who is a known sex offender to the police, sets his target on the young Ukrainian women, promising to drive them to Hamburg. Two local men, one 29 years old, another 21, have been seen flirting with lone (Ukrianian) women or women with only small kids. Another pair of local men, 50 years old and 53 years old, respectively, gave money to female refugees and asked the women to go with them."
There are also bad guys disguised as volunteers (who provide shelters to the Ukrainian refugees), the German police authority warns. "There is a case where the victim is an exhaust Ukrainian woman. We have no other choice but issuing notice for eviction. We have many honest volunteers who want to help. On the other hand, there are also people who take advantage of others in the chaos."
"It would be better to have a registry of the voluteers who shelter the Ukrainian women." says Monika Cissek-Evans, a German social educator, "Unfortunately, there are people out there trying to exploit others, in particular those who are new to town. Be cautious. Don't become easy target to anyone, man or woman."
Wow. Take off time for woman's day, help family and get caught up on work, and look what the thread has become. yeesh.
Quick little post then. I need to work on a car. She's a 40 year old spider and gorgeous. However, like a gorgeous woman, she is, likewise, high maintenance.
On topic, let's talk the Russo-Ukrainian war.
Sorta.
The whole US military/biological labs thing is farcical. The US government funds work around the world in biology. The US funds work in China! The US funds work in Russia! Sometimes it is funded by the NIH. Sometimes it is funded by the Pentagon. Sometimes by other departments of the US gov. Sometimes the labs study specific genetic questions. Sometimes they are doing agricultural studies. Sometimes they are doing virology and bacteriology. This is NOT a new phenomenon.
How dare those countries have competent biologists!
What god in the heavens would ever let a first rate biological lab ever arise outside the land of the free and home of the brave!
Curse those DC insiders claiming good science is not restricted to the American shores! And the sheer audacity of funding them!
DarthVaderNoooo.gif
Snarkasm aside, Ukraine was just another place with competent people in biology. Ukraine inherited labs from the Soviet Union and with proper funding has been able to maintain them. From the sounds of things, some of those labs worked on nasty diseases. WHO requested Ukraine to destroy samples - including anthrax! - when the war started. I would speculate the reason Ukraine had them is because of those updated Soviet labs able to handle the vicious bugs.
In addition, pharma and biotech companies are largely global. Anything larger than a few hundred people has ties all over. It could be they have outsourced their sysadmin and devops to India. Or they are working on specific diseases or genetics common to one place only. I know a Russian woman - not at my company - who used to run human trials for a biotech company in Ukraine. Ever had a problem with falsified data? Nope. Was it the only place they were doing it? Nope. Reason? Cost and they had the competence to collaborate.
As an aside, the FBI program to hunt down collaborators with China was utterly ridiculous because the US gov was actively and openly funding research - even stuff that could be used in bioweapons (acquisition of function work, frex!) in China and elsewhere. Then again, you have remember there are factions in every government. US. Russia. China. France. India. Those nations are not monolithic blocks.
Science is very much an international exercise. Ukraine was a relatively minor hub for work, but it still participated. Russia was larger and China one of the largest. Biology is one of those.
The speech by the Russian ambassador to the UN was painful in light of anyone who has knowledge. I imagine it was the same for people listening to SecState Colin Powell back in the Oughts about Iraq. Those speeches were comparable.
Anyways, Russo-Ukrainian War!
1. Russia still winning. Mariupol is a week or less away from falling. Kharkov...erm...stands? Kinda getting flattened. Sumy still...well...stands. Kiev stands. Oh, look, Volovakha has been taken...again.
2. The Russians seem to have sorted out some (most?) logistical issues and started advancing again. The battle for Kiev is probably happening soon. It also feels like they have switched plans on a grander scale. Let's see if this one survives contact with the enemy (reality).
3. VKS is tepidly there? Better than before? The Ukrainains still have around 56 fighters...and they are on the ground most of the time. The Russians are at least getting some drones up now. Artillery barrages are starting to be stronger, but still far, far lower than the stuff from 2014. Strange that.
4. Based on visual evidence, at the time of writing, the Russians have lost 8 BTGs and 4 tank battalions. That is around 8 to 10% of what they had before the start of fighting. It's a long, long way to calling their forces combat mauled, really, even if the rates of equipment loss are 2x what we can see. The Ukrainians have to keep this up for another...8 to 12 weeks...yikes.
5. The use of technicals is interesting. Two jerks in a jeep are really useful for messing with armored columns or quick reaction ATGM support, but ... in an urban environment, that's going to get messy.
6. By the original 72 hour estimate, the Russians have totally blown the timetable. By the 15 day estimate from the leaked documents is blown as well. Should we give the Russians another 25 days to match the US in Iraq?
7. There are reports the Russians are attempting to set up a vote for the KNR: Kherson People's Republic. If real, I think we see their plan for after the war. Lots of little balkanized republics in Ukraine as successor states.
8. Ukraine. You haven't folded. You keep punching. I hope you have a shbt ton of artillery traps set for that massive force coming for you in Kiev. I hope you have stockpiled thousands of ATGMs in the capital. I hope the weather warms and the spring rains are quite strong. The Russians have General Winter, but you have General Raputitsa. If she is strong, you have 3 months to knife the h*ll out of the Russian army and artillery with infantry. If she stands you up or is tepid, then you're fscked.
I give Ukraine a 15% chance of 'winning.' However, even if Ukraine wins, Ukraine loses. The devastation is immense and only going to get worse over the next 3 months. This war will be over by July. Either Russia will have crushed Ukraine by then or Russia will be exhausted.
BTW, can someone make a meme of a hot potato with a mig-29 tail and nose being tossed between the US and Poland?
Quick little post then. I need to work on a car. She's a 40 year old spider and gorgeous. However, like a gorgeous woman, she is, likewise, high maintenance.
On topic, let's talk the Russo-Ukrainian war.
Sorta.
The whole US military/biological labs thing is farcical. The US government funds work around the world in biology. The US funds work in China! The US funds work in Russia! Sometimes it is funded by the NIH. Sometimes it is funded by the Pentagon. Sometimes by other departments of the US gov. Sometimes the labs study specific genetic questions. Sometimes they are doing agricultural studies. Sometimes they are doing virology and bacteriology. This is NOT a new phenomenon.
How dare those countries have competent biologists!
What god in the heavens would ever let a first rate biological lab ever arise outside the land of the free and home of the brave!
Curse those DC insiders claiming good science is not restricted to the American shores! And the sheer audacity of funding them!
DarthVaderNoooo.gif
Snarkasm aside, Ukraine was just another place with competent people in biology. Ukraine inherited labs from the Soviet Union and with proper funding has been able to maintain them. From the sounds of things, some of those labs worked on nasty diseases. WHO requested Ukraine to destroy samples - including anthrax! - when the war started. I would speculate the reason Ukraine had them is because of those updated Soviet labs able to handle the vicious bugs.
In addition, pharma and biotech companies are largely global. Anything larger than a few hundred people has ties all over. It could be they have outsourced their sysadmin and devops to India. Or they are working on specific diseases or genetics common to one place only. I know a Russian woman - not at my company - who used to run human trials for a biotech company in Ukraine. Ever had a problem with falsified data? Nope. Was it the only place they were doing it? Nope. Reason? Cost and they had the competence to collaborate.
As an aside, the FBI program to hunt down collaborators with China was utterly ridiculous because the US gov was actively and openly funding research - even stuff that could be used in bioweapons (acquisition of function work, frex!) in China and elsewhere. Then again, you have remember there are factions in every government. US. Russia. China. France. India. Those nations are not monolithic blocks.
Science is very much an international exercise. Ukraine was a relatively minor hub for work, but it still participated. Russia was larger and China one of the largest. Biology is one of those.
The speech by the Russian ambassador to the UN was painful in light of anyone who has knowledge. I imagine it was the same for people listening to SecState Colin Powell back in the Oughts about Iraq. Those speeches were comparable.
Anyways, Russo-Ukrainian War!
1. Russia still winning. Mariupol is a week or less away from falling. Kharkov...erm...stands? Kinda getting flattened. Sumy still...well...stands. Kiev stands. Oh, look, Volovakha has been taken...again.
2. The Russians seem to have sorted out some (most?) logistical issues and started advancing again. The battle for Kiev is probably happening soon. It also feels like they have switched plans on a grander scale. Let's see if this one survives contact with the enemy (reality).
3. VKS is tepidly there? Better than before? The Ukrainains still have around 56 fighters...and they are on the ground most of the time. The Russians are at least getting some drones up now. Artillery barrages are starting to be stronger, but still far, far lower than the stuff from 2014. Strange that.
4. Based on visual evidence, at the time of writing, the Russians have lost 8 BTGs and 4 tank battalions. That is around 8 to 10% of what they had before the start of fighting. It's a long, long way to calling their forces combat mauled, really, even if the rates of equipment loss are 2x what we can see. The Ukrainians have to keep this up for another...8 to 12 weeks...yikes.
5. The use of technicals is interesting. Two jerks in a jeep are really useful for messing with armored columns or quick reaction ATGM support, but ... in an urban environment, that's going to get messy.
6. By the original 72 hour estimate, the Russians have totally blown the timetable. By the 15 day estimate from the leaked documents is blown as well. Should we give the Russians another 25 days to match the US in Iraq?
7. There are reports the Russians are attempting to set up a vote for the KNR: Kherson People's Republic. If real, I think we see their plan for after the war. Lots of little balkanized republics in Ukraine as successor states.
8. Ukraine. You haven't folded. You keep punching. I hope you have a shbt ton of artillery traps set for that massive force coming for you in Kiev. I hope you have stockpiled thousands of ATGMs in the capital. I hope the weather warms and the spring rains are quite strong. The Russians have General Winter, but you have General Raputitsa. If she is strong, you have 3 months to knife the h*ll out of the Russian army and artillery with infantry. If she stands you up or is tepid, then you're fscked.
I give Ukraine a 15% chance of 'winning.' However, even if Ukraine wins, Ukraine loses. The devastation is immense and only going to get worse over the next 3 months. This war will be over by July. Either Russia will have crushed Ukraine by then or Russia will be exhausted.
BTW, can someone make a meme of a hot potato with a mig-29 tail and nose being tossed between the US and Poland?
Look like Russia can still rely upon some support from local Ukrainians to help destabilizing the situation in their occupied cities and towns.
The Zaporozhye regional administration says a new mayor has been installed in the Ukrainian city of Melitopol, which is under Russian military control, after the elected mayor was detained on Friday.
Ivan Fedorov, the elected mayor of Melitopol, was detained by armed men on Friday and accused of terrorism offenses by the prosecutor's office for the separatist Russia-backed Luhansk region.
The newly installed mayor is Galina Danilchenko, a former member of the city council, according to a statement on the Zaporozhye regional administration website.
Danilchenko, who was not elected by the people, was introduced as the acting mayor on local TV, the statement said.
In her televised statement, which was posted by the administration on Telegram, Danilchenko said her "main task is to take all necessary steps to get the city back to normal."
She claimed there were people still in Melitopol who would try to destabilize "the situation and provoke a reaction of bad behavior."
"I ask you to keep your wits about you and not to give in to these provocations," Danilchenko said. "I appeal to the deputies, elected by the people, on all levels. Since you were elected by the people, it is your duty to care about the well-being of your citizens."
Danilchenko proposed the creation of a "People's Choice Committee" to "solve all the critical issues for Melitopol and the Melitopol region."
Russian military planes are flying an average of 200 sorties per day, compared to only about 10 per day flown by Ukraine, according to the official.
Much of the airspace above Ukraine is heavily guarded by both Ukrainian and Russian surface-to-air missiles, making air operations risky for both sides.
But Russian aircraft don't have to enter Ukrainian airspace to do damage.
"You can launch cruise missiles from aircraft from a great distance away. And if your target is relatively close, you don't need to enter the airspace," the official said.
For the first time, the official gave details on the total number of functioning Ukrainian fighter jets and how much they're being used.
"They have 56 available to them now, fully operational, and they're only flying them five to 10 hours a day," the official said.
New mayor installed in Russia-controlled Melitopol after the Ukrainian city's elected mayor was detained
From CNN's Paul P. Murphy and Josh PenningtonThe Zaporozhye regional administration says a new mayor has been installed in the Ukrainian city of Melitopol, which is under Russian military control, after the elected mayor was detained on Friday.
Ivan Fedorov, the elected mayor of Melitopol, was detained by armed men on Friday and accused of terrorism offenses by the prosecutor's office for the separatist Russia-backed Luhansk region.
The newly installed mayor is Galina Danilchenko, a former member of the city council, according to a statement on the Zaporozhye regional administration website.
Danilchenko, who was not elected by the people, was introduced as the acting mayor on local TV, the statement said.
In her televised statement, which was posted by the administration on Telegram, Danilchenko said her "main task is to take all necessary steps to get the city back to normal."
She claimed there were people still in Melitopol who would try to destabilize "the situation and provoke a reaction of bad behavior."
"I ask you to keep your wits about you and not to give in to these provocations," Danilchenko said. "I appeal to the deputies, elected by the people, on all levels. Since you were elected by the people, it is your duty to care about the well-being of your citizens."
Danilchenko proposed the creation of a "People's Choice Committee" to "solve all the critical issues for Melitopol and the Melitopol region."
Russian military planes are flying an average of 200 sorties per day, compared to only about 10 per day flown by Ukraine, according to the official.
Much of the airspace above Ukraine is heavily guarded by both Ukrainian and Russian surface-to-air missiles, making air operations risky for both sides.
But Russian aircraft don't have to enter Ukrainian airspace to do damage.
"You can launch cruise missiles from aircraft from a great distance away. And if your target is relatively close, you don't need to enter the airspace," the official said.
For the first time, the official gave details on the total number of functioning Ukrainian fighter jets and how much they're being used.
"They have 56 available to them now, fully operational, and they're only flying them five to 10 hours a day," the official said.
I think Some Sino brothers have been shaken from this war..... I am seeing people who were not pacifists turning pacifists? people like @Bellum_Romanum @siegecrossbow These were my favourite cowboys and gunslingers.
Seems like this little adventure had some sort of mental impact? Chillax brothers come down and ''as they say every war is a different war''
Besides I am not surprised as this is going along the probability of conventional engagements in Urban areas. Russia will reclaim all of Ukraine in sort time in few months time..
Seems like this war scared the hell out of the wrong people..........
There will be many wars post this war
Seems like this little adventure had some sort of mental impact? Chillax brothers come down and ''as they say every war is a different war''
Besides I am not surprised as this is going along the probability of conventional engagements in Urban areas. Russia will reclaim all of Ukraine in sort time in few months time..
Seems like this war scared the hell out of the wrong people..........
There will be many wars post this war
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