Ukrainian War Developments

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Virtup

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Well, Technicals/ATGMs didnt stop Russia's BTGs from encircling Ukraine's Eastern armies in open terrain, so good luck with that.

ATGM technicals aren't even going to see the tanks behind rolling IR smokescreens until its too late.

And that's assuming they even survive the artillery barrages and gunships until they make contact with armor.

Once they are in range of their main guns, they will get shredded with ballistic shells faster than they can acquire missile lock.

In open terrain, ATGMs can only succeed against the most inept commanders. Not against a proper offensive.
Wouldn't the point of having technicals be to evade artillery and outmaneuver/flank ennemy tank formations using their speed in order to hit their weakpoints?
The Chadians did that to Libyan tanks during the toyota wars using machine guns and RPGs. With ATGMs, Technicals could in theory use their speed to flank tank formations, their small size to hide behind small cover, and their missiles to strike the ennemy's rear from afar.
I think they fit perfectly the role of cavalry archer.
 

gelgoog

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When a ship is about to wreck, the old sailors say "the rats leave the sinking ship"...
"Andrei Panov, the deputy head of Aeroflot, resigned from the company and left Russia"
Aeroflot has been constantly sabotaging the Russian aircraft industry for years. This is particularly egregious since they are a Russian state owned company. I am sure Andrei Panov is not the only Aeroflot leader responsible for this but he was certainly part of this tradition. Russia had the Tu-204 and Il-96 available in the 1990s. These were roughly equivalent in performance to the Boeing 757 and Airbus A340 at the time. Some of those Western aircraft are still in service today. Only major issue they had was obsolete avionics but this was easily soluble. The Russian aircraft cost less than half the price of the imports. Aeroflot still chose to buy foreign aircraft. And not for 50% of the fleet. For the whole fleet. A lot of common people suspected the Aeroflot leadership of accepting kickbacks in order to make these airplane purchase deals which were ruinous to both the Russian tax payer and its civilian aviation industry.
This guy, Andrei Panov, used to work for Bain Consulting before he joined Aeroflot. Bain is the company behind Bain Capital the vulture capitalist company founded by Mitt Romney.

"Thousands of Russians streamed out of train stations and airport terminals in Europe this week, leaving behind a home country that is increasingly isolated from the rest of the world and a government that is moving to stamp out dissent.
Many did not book a return ticket.
Much like the people who left Hong Kong to go to the Commonwealth countries I doubt a lot of them will find much solace in the world outside Russia. It is better that these 5th columnists leave Russia anyway.

"Until recently, it was widely expected that Belarusian troops would also be joining Russian forces in the invasion. However, there are signs of a rebellion within the ranks of the Belarusian military.
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As a result of this opposition, Viačorka reported that Belarusian units have yet to enter Ukrainian territory and units stationed adjacent to the border with Ukraine have been returned to their bases. “It seems the decision to involve the Belarusian military in fighting was changed as a result of pressure from top brass and the refusal by soldiers to fight,” he claimed."
At this point the Belarussians would have been more a liability than an asset to the invasion. For much the same reason I never put credence to the rumours of Belarussian or Kazakh troops being sent there. You cannot just drop some troops in the middle of a professional army and expect it to perform well at all. The fact the Donbass milita issued a recall order for a large part of their possible force just some 3 days into the active conflict also shows that they do not think they need more troops at this juncture.
 
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"Thousands of Russians streamed out of train stations and airport terminals in Europe this week, leaving behind a home country that is increasingly isolated from the rest of the world and a government that is moving to stamp out dissent.

Many did not book a return ticket.

Some expressed fury at Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion of Ukraine. Others said they were ashamed. Several were afraid to talk."

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Ummm isn’t going into Europe a bit dangerous because of how anti Russia these European nations are now becoming are, talk about doing a HK rioter retreat from a place of slightly more difficult normal into a very hot place. Also, if these people are supporters of navalny then funny enough in a darkly morbid way, nothing of value is lost given how navalny is a known traitor to the nation with his western backings and shit
 

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Any formal treaty between Ukraine and Russia would have to be signed by the international recognised Ukranian governmet to be seen as legitimate by international law:
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That's why I said continuing the war until Zelensky agrees to an unconditional surrender. You can't win a war by repeated refusing what your opponent is offering you as you're losing your entire country. He could flee the country and run a government in exile from America I guess. He'll be in good company with the current president of Afghanistan.
Not currently with war between the two nations, no ;)
But later down the line after an undetermined period of occupation, puppet regime or even annexation. It happened to the Soviet Union and even threatens Russia internally today. That's the problem with empires.
I thought you were referring to a neighbouring country like Poland being hostile to Russia. If that's what you meant, now's the time to fight. They won't get a better chance in the future.

If you meant to say the population of whatever part of the Ukraine Russia occupies may become hostile and starts an insurgency, I agree it's possible. I think they'll go the way Germany did post-WW2 rather than the Afghanistan or Iraq. Being used as a pawn by NATO for years before being abandoned when they actually needed them is going to hurt their pride a lot.

If still they really hate Russia I think they'll just move to Germany as refugees. But we'll have to see.
Just like Poland, Finland and others which were all part of Russia or the Soviet Union before. Most of them are not that fond of becoming part of it again and are not exactly friendly towards Russia today. Historical animosity have a tendency to linger for a long time.
Finland has pretty good relations with Russia since WW2. I have no idea on whether Finns have any historical animosity towards Russia, but their government has done an excellent job of maintaining neutrality and not letting its country being used as an international battleground.

Countries do eventually forgive and forget. Most Europeans seem to have forgiven Germany for the actions of the Nazis. Except the English of course.
Germany and Japan became friendly because both actually benefitted by the actions of the conquerors long term. Carrot, not more stick. Had they not, both would be looking for getting even today.
LOL. Did you hear about the Soviet occupation of Berlin? Germany lost a portion of their territory, was split in half for 40 years and had ethnic Germans repatriated. I do agree that Japan largely got the carrot, compared to Germany they got off virtually unpunished.
 

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Wouldn't the point of having technicals be to evade artillery and outmaneuver/flank ennemy tank formations using their speed in order to hit their weakpoints?
The Chadians did that to Libyan tanks during the toyota wars using machine guns and RPGs. With ATGMs, Technicals could in theory use their speed to flank tank formations, their small size to hide behind small cover, and their missiles to strike the ennemy's rear from afar.
I think they fit perfectly the role of cavalry archer.

lolz, k, test it out against a Combined Arms Battalion in open terrain and see what happens to your "toyota wars" playbook.
 

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This article reads like a joke. This is what they wrote:
In December, Russia had asked NATO not to include Ukraine and Belgium in their military alliance, adding that their inclusion would pose a threat to its security.
Hello? Brussels (Belgium) happens to be the headquarters of NATO since the 60s. LOL
 
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