Ukrainian War Developments

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ArmchairAnalyst

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On an unrelated note, I do wonder whether how accepting Europeans will be of the thousands of Ukrainian refugees entering Europe. It's all smiles and happiness now, but Europeans can be racist against each other. We all know Germany's historical views on slavs, and England does have a lot of racism against Eastern Europeans.
I'm embarrased to admit it but to me there generally seems to be a picking order to our racisme at least here in northern Europe with muslims from the middle-east firmly on the bottom. Migrant workers somewhere in the middle and disliked "neighbours" right at the top. War refugees from another european country will get the wip treatment...as long as they don't plan to stay permanently.
 
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stoss860420

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If that guy was alive, isn’t decapitation of basically anyone literally a war crime? If not, isn’t mutilation of a corpse also a war crime? The Chechens are screwing themselves over if one of them is true.
This is what a lot of people feared (including me) when the Chechens said they were entering the conflict. Please note, not defending Azov just stating that if the Chechens despise you, it can and does lead to these kind of actions.
 

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Kalibr missile shot down over Kiev today by Ukrainian air defenses.

This signifies that Kiev still has a considerable air defense presence as previously observed; and also explains why the RuAF has been more hesitant on using precision strikes against the city and has switched to launching ALCM from within their borders with Tu22M2/3 instead of endangering the lives of combat pilots, an important component of the RuAF.

You can replace equipment, you can’t replace an experienced pilot so easily.

How do you know that missile was intercepted from that image? What if it malfunctioned or hit building?

Ask yourself what's more likely:
A) The Ukrainians intercepted a terrain hugging cruise missile (very hard even for the best IADS on the planet)
B) One of the many fired CMs malfunctioned or crashed into terrain.

By the way, are you still relying on Ukrainian pictures after all the evidence of doctored images and videos?
 

Temstar

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Those are civilians posing next to a broken down tank, which is not the same as it being captured. None of the others seem to have suffered any external damage either.

But yeah, Russian equipment seems to break down a lot.
Let me be more specific:
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I thought it was notable because it stood out from all the Soviet-era equipment.
I wonder if reusing this relatively unique vehicle is potentially dangerous due to friendly fire issues.
 

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This is what a lot of people feared (including me) when the Chechens said they were entering the conflict. Please note, not defending Azov just stating that if the Chechens despise you, it can and does lead to these kind of actions.
I totally get what you are saying. Despite Azov’s ideology, war crimes are still war crimes, but the Chechens don’t care. If one offends their religion in that manner, these type of actions happen. I guess we’ll have to wait for the end of the war to see what’s going to happen. They operated on their own turf for so long that they forgot that Ukraine isn’t Chechnya.
 

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If that guy was alive, isn’t decapitation of basically anyone literally a war crime? If not, isn’t mutilation of a corpse also a war crime? The Chechens are screwing themselves over if one of them is true.
Arguable. If he's a member of the Azov battalion the Russians will claim he is no different to the treatment SS soldiers got in WW2. Most reasonable people would agree Neo-Nazis should get the same treatment as ISIS types, if not worse. Ultimately the winners decide who commits the war crimes.

If he is indeed the person responsible for the pig lard stunt then you have to call it a case of karma biting back big. Still I don't think it is smart for a serving member of the Russian forces to be doing that, let alone recording it. After all, there's a reason why the Geneva Conventions exist. Chechens captured by Ukrainians now probably won't get the same treatment as ethnic Russians, although it may have already been the case.
 

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The Russians have already made it clear that any foreign volunteers will NOT be covered under the Geneva Convention. They are 100% legally justified to do this, and there is historical president. Foreign volunteers in the Germany army got tried as war criminals. There is nothing wrong with Ukrainian citizens going back to fight for their country, but any foreigner will be de facto seen as a war criminal. I can't emphasise more that the Russians ARE NOT F*CKING AROUND.

Despite this, I'm amazed that western governments are not stopping people from leaving, they seem to be encouraging it. They will have been told by their governments if they do go, they are 100% on their own.
Americans are sending in SpecOps in ukrainian 'foreign legion' livery; effectively, they are sending in Sardaukar in Harkonnen livery.

Also it's clear from the COVID-19 debacle that the West doesn't give a damn about the lives nor livelihoods of its own citizens so sending its own people into the meat grinder of ukraine is par for the course.

Regarding ceasefires, if we observe the lessons of Syria, NATO- aligned assets tend to use ceasefires to move reinforcements into position; when you have the initiative you ought to attack and destroy the enemy in totality.
 

texx1

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The Russians have already made it clear that any foreign volunteers will NOT be covered under the Geneva Convention. They are 100% legally justified to do this, and there is historical president. Foreign volunteers in the Germany army got tried as war criminals. There is nothing wrong with Ukrainian citizens going back to fight for their country, but any foreigner will be de facto seen as a war criminal. I can't emphasise more that the Russians ARE NOT F*CKING AROUND.
According to Tass, Russian MOD spokesman just officially announced that foreign mercenaries captured will not have POW status and will face criminal charges.

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None of the mercenaries the West is sending to Ukraine to fight for the nationalist regime will enjoy the right of combatants under international humanitarian law, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.

"I wish to make an official statement that none of the mercenaries the West is sending to Ukraine to fight for the nationalist regime in Kiev can be considered as combatants in accordance with international humanitarian law or enjoy the status of prisoners of war," Konashenkov stressed.
 

FriedButter

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According to Tass, Russian MOD spokesman just officially announced that foreign mercenaries captured will not have POW status and will face criminal charges.

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What kind of charges would they face? Because I can’t think of any. Tho I wonder if they will be sent to a penal colony for a very long time.
 

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The Russians are storming the Zaporizhya Nuclear Power Plant.
Tank shells and autocannon rounds hitting the power plant turbine buildings...

Hope this isn't true.



And live footage from the cams. You can see the Russian soldiers in the parking lot.


Edit: ! The Russians are shining a searchlight at the camera to blind it.
 
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