Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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Is there any doubt about this?

Armoured units entering a fortified/heavily-defended big city is a death sentence for them.

If I am sitting in an armoured unit and you tell me to drive inside a fortified city I would be sh*tting myself

Let (a lot) airstrikes, recon/ISR elements, drones for CAS, to happen first and then we can talk about entering the city (WITH a lot of infantry)
The Iraq war showed tanks and armoured vehicles do work well in urban conflict.
 

enroger

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Is there any doubt about this?

Armoured units entering a fortified/heavily-defended big city is a death sentence for them.

If I am sitting in an armoured unit and you tell me to drive inside a fortified city I would be sh*tting myself

Let (a lot) airstrikes, recon/ISR elements, drones for CAS, to happen first and then we can talk about entering the city (WITH a lot of infantry)

Yeah, I still don't think they'll storm the city. They'll kill as many Ukrainian forces as possible and force a negotiation.
 

sferrin

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If Ukraine still exists after this war, there's no way it will join NATO. I doubt it will ever even join the EU now. They may get lots of funding and military support, but they will have to fight Russia on their own.

Americans will not want to be dragged into a war over an eastern European country.
You mean like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania?
 

james smith esq

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Despite MarKoz81's usual long-winded soliloquies in which he often performances dry analytical lovings of the reverberations of his own echo, it would appear he got triggered and uncharisteristically exploded in bout of emotional outburst here...the stark contrasting juxtaposition could not have been more palpable here.

His initial superlong analysis when the war first started a mere short 4 days ago concluded in saying that "violence is a sign of the weak"... Without qualifying in full context, that statement cannot posssibly be true, if mere violence in and of itself is a sign of weakness then I suppose the United States should be the weakest entity in the entire history of the world
In fact, the US is one of the weakest entities in the entire history of the world, because it’s global influence has, largely, been based on false-history, false-advertisement, and violent oppression/exploitation!

When was the last time that the US fought a war against an equally , or more, powerful nation?
 
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gelgoog

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1) the generalist (multi-axes) approach was taken with the expectation that reserves would be committed to the axis on which a major breakthrough occurred.
It just looks like a regular war of movement to me.

2) the much celebrated southern axis was not the primary focus as insufficient reserves were positioned to follow up on a breakthrough outside the region.
There is more than one objective here.

As no breakthrough has occurred, except for the one along the southern coast, Russia has not had an opportunity to concentrate their a forces for a decisive engagement.
They already captured several cities. Mostly smaller ones. Once the TOS-1 and BM-30 Smerch started moving that was the start of the mop up phase.

Additionally, the advance towards Kyiv has been nothing but perplexing, as it would seem that Russia did, indeed, concentrate sufficient forces, but did not follow-through. Perhaps the choice of an armored assault on the Capital was a flawed strategy to begin with?
So you just go with some paratroopers with light armor into a city of 3 million people? Are you mad?
It will probably be attacked last. They did send some BTR-80A there so maybe small probe attacks soon.
The Ukrainians also blew up a lot of bridges to Kiev.

Nah fam. If Putin doesn't take it ALL guess who will be joining NATO, and be received with open arms? Talk about an own-goal.
If that happened both it and the Balts would be conquered next.

Even 'neutral' Sweden is supporting Ukraine
Their MIC depends on the US. They have always hated Russia since they busted their empire.
 
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