Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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China should get as involved as it can diplomatically IMO. It's a low hanging fruit.

Israel is America's Achilles heel. Being pro-Israel may win you votes in the bible belt, but it is damaging to America geopolitically. America isn't very popular most Islamic countries. In a bipolar world the less influence America has the more influence China has. American strategists know this and that's why they're so keen on bringing up the Uyghur hoax.

The other benefit is that it's dividing America and its allies. Europe is generally more sympathetic towards Palestinians than USA and even countries like the UK don't see eye to eye with America on Palestine. Not to mention NATO allies like Turkey who are pretty much pro-Hamas right now. It would be a massive coup if China could get a member state to withdraw from NATO.

France asked for a UNSC resolution today on a ceasefire - China should jump on the proposal 100%.
Surely the Judeo-Christians cannot be denied the right to commit GENOCIDE. It is their GOD-given right to show their devotion to the LORD. The Holy Bible said it so.

Tough luck for those soul on the receiving end of the Lord's commandment.



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4Runner

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The US relying on the stupidity of the masses. Yes talk as if China has an equal nuclear arsenal to the US for the US to look like they're the good guys wanting to reduce nukes in the world. China should say they'll talk about totaling eliminating nukes around the world or when the US reduces it's number to how many China has otherwise f*ck off! The US is the first country to have nukes and still are the only ones to use them out of military aggression after 75 years. So who's more responsible with nukes when the US used it as soon as they put one together?
I have a friend of 25 years, who is a local educated generation American. He and his father go on a golf trip each year. He told me, in some year Trump was elected, one of their golf buddies, 70+ year old local generation American, kept bitching about China. My friend asked him if he ever visited China. He said no. My friend then told him that he has a Chines friend of 20+ years. And from what he can tell, very little of what the old man said was even close to the real China. That old man simply brushed him off. We are talking about a typical middle class old man who can afford a golf trip. Chinese brain wash, American brain wash, European brain wash...... You can argue colors. Nonetheless, they are all brain washes to the mass. The primary difference is that Chinese inside China don't have stomach or time to demonize US or Europe just because they feel happy doing that.
 

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The primary difference is that Chinese inside China don't have stomach or time to demonize US or Europe just because they feel happy doing that.

Exactly.

Why be a loser.

Why listen to other losers.

Most losers are dumb. Most losers are idiotic.

Why should we bother to read articles of brainwashing by those same losers?

Once in a while, a good idea to keep tabs on the enemy.

However, we should not over do it. It comes apparent very quickly what is over doing it in this situation.

Hey!

Read one article from a loser, read them all, haha!

But we got keep reading the crap, only periodically, just to keep tabs on the enemy.

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This is the amazing part.

The CCP is using their sense of white supremacy, aka racism, the CCP is using their white supremacy thoughts against them.

Since they have an ingrained belief in white supremacy, the chosen people will win.

So what CCP does, is have a breakthrough or a real advance, just make brief announcement and that's it.

The Liberal media has to sell newspaper. The Liberal media has to tell the people what they want to hear. Since America has a large segment of the population that are white supremacist who read the news, over time they become grossly misinformed about China.

What is the 5G race like? Like a white supremacist has a clue?

Biden was talking the other day about how America cannot allow China to get ahead in the EV industry. Wonder what he means by that?

If it there was no white supremacy, America probably would compete harder. With white supremacy, does not matter what the CCP tells the Americans with their Chinese advances, white supremacy cannot accept that.

Therefore, China goes forward unimpeded.

Just wait until we get more news about the IC in China.

Then it be like WTF?

The trade war will explode again! [rant] [/rant]

:p
 

voyager1

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Exactly.

Why be a loser.

Why listen to other losers.

Most losers are dumb. Most losers are idiotic.

Why should we bother to read articles of brainwashing by those same losers?

Once in a while, a good idea to keep tabs on the enemy.

However, we should not over do it. It comes apparent very quickly what is over doing it in this situation.

Hey!

Read one article from a loser, read them all, haha!

But we got keep reading the crap, only periodically, just to keep tabs on the enemy.

--------- ---------- ---------

This is the amazing part.

The CCP is using their sense of white supremacy, aka racism, the CCP is using their white supremacy thoughts against them.

Since they have an ingrained belief in white supremacy, the chosen people will win.

So what CCP does, is have a breakthrough or a real advance, just make brief announcement and that's it.

The Liberal media has to sell newspaper. The Liberal media has to tell the people what they want to hear. Since America has a large segment of the population that are white supremacist who read the news, over time they become grossly misinformed about China.

What is the 5G race like? Like a white supremacist has a clue?

Biden was talking the other day about how America cannot allow China to get ahead in the EV industry. Wonder what he means by that?

If it there was no white supremacy, America probably would compete harder. With white supremacy, does not matter what the CCP tells the Americans with their Chinese advances, white supremacy cannot accept that.

Therefore, China goes forward unimpeded.

Just wait until we get more news about the IC in China.

Then it be like WTF?

The trade war will explode again! [rant] [/rant]

:p
Haha yes. The US have self-delusioned themselves that they are the best and that China is a 3rd world country producing junk toys that it exports to the West

As long as this mentality stays, US is in trouble
 

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Here's another story I saw mentioned on TV to go along with the one where Republicans were looking for traces of bamboo in Arizona ballots as proof of fake ballots from Asia to claim Biden becoming President was illegal... The short-bus people are now claiming real ballots were shredded and fed to chickens. And how did they come up with this...? Because on the news there was a story where there was a fire at a farm and many chickens died. So naturally it has to be because those chickens were fed shredded ballots and someone wanted to burn the evidence.
 

Gatekeeper

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Given what is happening in Palestine, how far should China get involved?

For example, China is currently chair of the UN Security Council.
And it's not an exaggeration that the entire UN is calling for a ceasefire.
Of course, the exceptions are Israel and the USA which is blocking this.

And one future impact is that when the usual suspects mention Uyghur Genocide - their actions on Palestine will be flung back in their face.

China should get as involved as it can diplomatically IMO. It's a low hanging fruit.

Israel is America's Achilles heel. Being pro-Israel may win you votes in the bible belt, but it is damaging to America geopolitically. America isn't very popular most Islamic countries. In a bipolar world the less influence America has the more influence China has. American strategists know this and that's why they're so keen on bringing up the Uyghur hoax.

The other benefit is that it's dividing America and its allies. Europe is generally more sympathetic towards Palestinians than USA and even countries like the UK don't see eye to eye with America on Palestine. Not to mention NATO allies like Turkey who are pretty much pro-Hamas right now. It would be a massive coup if China could get a member state to withdraw from NATO.

France asked for a UNSC resolution today on a ceasefire - China should jump on the proposal 100%.

Surely the Judeo-Christians cannot be denied the right to commit GENOCIDE. It is their GOD-given right to show their devotion to the LORD. The Holy Bible said it so.

Tough luck for those soul on the receiving end of the Lord's commandment.



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My, why are we still wondering why US defend Israel comitting genocide so strongly? I hope this makes it clearer.

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Haha yes. The US have self-delusioned themselves that they are the best and that China is a 3rd world country producing junk toys that it exports to the West

As long as this mentality stays, US is in trouble

My favorite line, from a Eric Margolis rant

These people still believe the Chinese only can make and export paper fans and back scratches!

:D

Yes it's funny isn't it. I've ran across a few people like that with the mentality set back in time to a by gone time of 30 years ago. These people were knocking China's made stuff as cheap crap. Etc.

I then asked them what phones are you using, and they are proudly said iPhone! So I just said why are you using cheap made in China crap! Lol.
 

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U.S. to waive sanctions on firm, CEO behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline​

Andrea ShalalSabine Siebold

The Biden administration will waive sanctions on the company behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Europe and its chief executive, a Washington source familiar with the plans and Germany's foreign minister saidon Wednesday.

A U.S. State Department report to be delivered to Congress as early as Wednesday concludes that Nord Stream 2 AG and CEO Matthias Warnig, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, engaged in sanctionable activity but that it was in the U.S. national interest to waive the sanctions, the source said.

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said the administration had waived the sanctions on those two parties but also imposed sanctions on Russian entities and ships linked to Nord Stream 2.

"We see this as a constructive step, which we are happy to further discuss with our partners in Washington," Maas told reporters, adding the Biden administration had not made any promises beyond the sanctions waiver.


The administration under Democratic President Joe Biden still opposed the Nord Stream 2 pipeline but felt it was important to send a signal about its strategic commitment to rebuilding relations with Germany, which were badly damaged under former Republican President Donald Trump, the Washington source said.

Russia's state energy company Gazprom
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and its western partners are racing to finish the line to take Russian gas to Europe via Germany, under the Baltic Sea. The project, now about 95% complete, would bypass Ukraine, depriving it of lucrative transit fees and potentially undermining its struggle against Russian aggression.

Yuriy Vitrenko, the new CEO of Ukraine's state-owned energy company Naftogaz, said Nord Stream 2 is Russia's "most malign and dangerous geopolitical project" and that Ukraine would ask Washington to fully apply its laws and impose sanctions to stop the pipeline.

Russian officials on Wednesday signaled that the move could help mend Washington's fraught ties with Moscow.
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But Republicans in Washington criticized the reported waiver, first reported by Axios on Tuesday.
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Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke with Maas late on Tuesday, underscoring Washington's continued opposition to the pipeline but also highlighting the need for the NATO allies to work together to counter Russia, the department said.

White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters that the administration has been clear that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a bad deal.

A U.S. State Department spokesperson said on Tuesday: "The Biden administration has been clear that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a Russian geopolitical project that threatens European energy security and that of Ukraine and eastern flank NATO Allies and partners."


Biden's decision to waive sanctions on Nord Stream 2 AG and its CEO removes one irritant in U.S.-German ties, and U.S. officials hope it provides some leverage to deepen cooperation on broader issues, including China and Russia.

German officials had pressed hard for such an outcome, arguing that the overall relationship was too important to sacrifice over what Berlin has described as a commercial project.
 

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U.S. to waive sanctions on firm, CEO behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline​

Andrea ShalalSabine Siebold

The Biden administration will waive sanctions on the company behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Europe and its chief executive, a Washington source familiar with the plans and Germany's foreign minister saidon Wednesday.

A U.S. State Department report to be delivered to Congress as early as Wednesday concludes that Nord Stream 2 AG and CEO Matthias Warnig, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, engaged in sanctionable activity but that it was in the U.S. national interest to waive the sanctions, the source said.

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said the administration had waived the sanctions on those two parties but also imposed sanctions on Russian entities and ships linked to Nord Stream 2.

"We see this as a constructive step, which we are happy to further discuss with our partners in Washington," Maas told reporters, adding the Biden administration had not made any promises beyond the sanctions waiver.


The administration under Democratic President Joe Biden still opposed the Nord Stream 2 pipeline but felt it was important to send a signal about its strategic commitment to rebuilding relations with Germany, which were badly damaged under former Republican President Donald Trump, the Washington source said.

Russia's state energy company Gazprom
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and its western partners are racing to finish the line to take Russian gas to Europe via Germany, under the Baltic Sea. The project, now about 95% complete, would bypass Ukraine, depriving it of lucrative transit fees and potentially undermining its struggle against Russian aggression.

Yuriy Vitrenko, the new CEO of Ukraine's state-owned energy company Naftogaz, said Nord Stream 2 is Russia's "most malign and dangerous geopolitical project" and that Ukraine would ask Washington to fully apply its laws and impose sanctions to stop the pipeline.

Russian officials on Wednesday signaled that the move could help mend Washington's fraught ties with Moscow.
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But Republicans in Washington criticized the reported waiver, first reported by Axios on Tuesday.
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Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke with Maas late on Tuesday, underscoring Washington's continued opposition to the pipeline but also highlighting the need for the NATO allies to work together to counter Russia, the department said.

White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters that the administration has been clear that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a bad deal.

A U.S. State Department spokesperson said on Tuesday: "The Biden administration has been clear that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a Russian geopolitical project that threatens European energy security and that of Ukraine and eastern flank NATO Allies and partners."


Biden's decision to waive sanctions on Nord Stream 2 AG and its CEO removes one irritant in U.S.-German ties, and U.S. officials hope it provides some leverage to deepen cooperation on broader issues, including China and Russia.

German officials had pressed hard for such an outcome, arguing that the overall relationship was too important to sacrifice over what Berlin has described as a commercial project.
Well, it appears for now that Biden is way tougher on China than on Russia. Any chance this could be the beginning of a trend in trying to pull Russia out of China's supposed orbit?
 

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This article explains the movement among the many growing right wing Americans. You can bet they have an anti China attitude and anti immigrant as well (especially from Mexico).

Because politics is now a core aspect of how Republicans and Trumpists define their personhood, lying is easily normalized. False claims have become integrated into their thinking about the world and reality.

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While telling lies is supposedly contrary to their faith,
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support the lies told by Trump and other "saviors" if they are perceived as serving the purpose of helping to create "God's kingdom" in America and around the world.

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