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UAE reports need for a third dose of China’s Covid vaccine​

Some people who have received the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine in the United Arab Emirates have had to be given a third dose to boost their response, according to local health authorities.

Doctors said that the antibody response to two doses of the vaccine — the main one offered in the UAE’s successful programme — had been variable.

Although the UAE health ministry has given few details, local newspapers reported that a “small” proportion of those who had received doses needed a third.

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Sigh. Chile is reporting 5,000 cases per day, higher than usual, despite already injecting an unusually large number of Sinovac vaccines.
Some immune-compromised patients, such those who have cancer or are undergoing chemo treatment for cancer, those who are HIV positive, those who had organ transplant surgery and have to take immune-suppression drugs etc may indeed need 3 doses. But I think it's probably true for most of the covid-19 vaccines, not only the Chinese one. BTW, The claim that the Sinovac vaccine is ineffective against the Brazilian variant is not true.
 

KYli

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So the over-hyped vaccines powerhouse India can't manufacture vaccines without raw materials from the US and China.
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As a manufacturing giant, India has sought to portray itself as a generous benefactor through targeted vaccine diplomacy, while seeking to outdo regional rival China. At the same time, New Delhi has tightly controlled the deployment of the doses it has, mostly supplied by Serum, which is making the shot developed by AstraZeneca Plc and Oxford University.

Indian officials have also requested more vaccines than initially expected from the company, said Poonawalla.

"We had to dedicate a lot of our capacity, which was not originally planned for India," he said.

"We're trying to balance it out as much as possible, but again for the first few months we have been directed to prioritise supplies to India and certain other countries that have a high disease burden."

Daunting Gap Covax has been slow to get off the ground, which WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has linked to companies and countries prioritising bilateral deals ahead of the health body's approval process.

Poonawalla reiterated his concerns over impending bottlenecks caused by "raw materials nationalism" after the US invoked the Defense Production Act this month to safeguard supplies of items, such as bags and filters, for its own manufacturers.

"I've sent this message to all the decision makers in the U.S. - please do not put a ban on critical raw materials that other global vaccine manufacturers need," Poonawalla said.
 

KYli

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The second phase of the Sinovac factory in Beijing would be completed in April and boost the total production to over 1 billion doses annually. Sinovas's goal is to eventually produce 2 billion doses per year.
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Zhifei intends to boost its vaccines production to 1 billion doses by the end of this year.
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Zhifei intends to boost its vaccines production to 1 billion doses by the end of this year.
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This is actually impressive, since they were originally tracking at 300 million doses a year. Keep in mind sub-unit vaccines are easier to scale up. This is very similar to Novavax vaccine. I am concerned through about the 3 dose regimen, because even if the vaccine is affordable it would take alot of medical resources to physically immunize someone with 3 doctor visits. Keep in mind 2021 vaccine production figures in China are now pretty incredible.

Sinopharm: minimum 1 billion doses
Sinovac: 2 billion doses
Cansino: 500 million doses
ZF2001: 1 billion doses

Considering china will only be vaccinating about 60% of population in 2021, domestic demand is only going to be about 1.7 billion doses. This means well over 2 billion doses getting exported. Thats insane.
 

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The second phase of the Sinovac factory in Beijing would be completed in April and boost the total production to over 1 billion doses annually. Sinovas's goal is to eventually produce 2 billion doses per year.
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They need to boost mRNA vaccines production. This is new technology for many kinds of vaccines, and so far Moderna and Biontech are getting all the attention. In Hong Kong, people are avoiding Sinovac vaccines due to some unrelated side affects, and perceived lower effective rates.
 

voyager1

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They need to boost mRNA vaccines production. This is new technology for many kinds of vaccines, and so far Moderna and Biontech are getting all the attention. In Hong Kong, people are avoiding Sinovac vaccines due to some unrelated side affects, and perceived lower effective rates.
From what I know China has a mRNA vaccine currently undergoing trials.But here is the trick, the vaccine is a partnership between BioNTech and Fosun Pharma so the technology as far as I am aware is ownwed by BioNTech (German Company).

If China doesn't have any other mRNA vaccines then this shows thats its pharmaceutical capabilities are not world class.

And nobody cares about Hong Kong, the Sinovac is a proven working vaccine which is in demand around the world. The only reason that they dont take it is due to racism nothing else
 

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From what I know China has a mRNA vaccine currently undergoing trials.But here is the trick, the vaccine is a partnership between BioNTech and Fosun Pharma so the technology as far as I am aware is ownwed by BioNTech (German Company).

If China doesn't have any other mRNA vaccines then this shows thats its pharmaceutical capabilities are not world class.

And nobody cares about Hong Kong, the Sinovac is a proven working vaccine which is in demand around the world. The only reason that they dont take it is due to racism nothing else
There are biotech companies in China using mRNA technology for other products, not specifically for covid-19.

This is another mRNA covid-19 vaccine developing China.

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KYli

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They need to boost mRNA vaccines production. This is new technology for many kinds of vaccines, and so far Moderna and Biontech are getting all the attention. In Hong Kong, people are avoiding Sinovac vaccines due to some unrelated side affects, and perceived lower effective rates.
As I have mentioned, China has multiple covid mRNA vaccines in the pipeline. It is just that they are not prioritized. Beside the most promising vaccine in China right now is Clover subunit vaccine which has a better first phase trial result than Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax.

Sinovac vaccine is based upon traditional inactivated method that has proven to be safe. Sinovac vaccines have reported lower side effects than Pfizer in all other countries except Hong Kong. Given how Hong Kongers and the media of Hong Kong have always been bias against anything China, these kinds of negative publicity is guarantee. As for efficacy rate, mRNA might offer a better efficacy rate but no one knows how it fares with new mutated version. Astrazeneca failed miserably with the SA variant, J&J and Novavax didn't perform well either.
 

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As I have mentioned, China has multiple covid mRNA vaccines in the pipeline. It is just that they are not prioritized. Beside the most promising vaccine in China right now is Clover subunit vaccine which has a better first phase trial result than Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax.

Sinovac vaccine is based upon traditional inactivated method that has proven to be safe. Sinovac vaccines have reported lower side effects than Pfizer in all other countries except Hong Kong. Given how Hong Kongers and the media of Hong Kong have always been bias against anything China, these kinds of negative publicity is guarantee. As for efficacy rate, mRNA might offer a better efficacy rate but no one knows how it fares with new mutated version. Astrazeneca failed miserably with the SA variant, J&J and Novavax didn't perform well either.

The answer is zilch.

Against the SA variant, you might as well be injecting water in your veins.


I would like to see how Sputnik V would fare. Compared to other adenovector vaccines, which uses only a single vector, the Sputnik V uses two.
 
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