Chinese Economics Thread

[manqiangrexue]

Certainly each person will have their own preferences, but I would just like to point out that judging India by what you saw growing up in NYC is like judging China by what you saw growing up in NYC. I think you're about the same age as me, so you should remember that back in the 90's, most overseas Chinese were of the Fujian/Guangdong stock. Chinese from other parts of the country were relatively rare, and you'd only be likely to meet them if you were in the same circles (i.e. kids of overseas students).

I don't know anything about India, but I imagine it's the same dynamic.

That's giving them too much benefit from the doubt. If I see a million Indian women and aren't attracted to any, I've made up my mind. I can literally Google for the most gorgeous Indian actresses in the world and find nothing more than just barely ok for my taste. On the other hand, in every American city I go to, if I go to Chinatown or Koreatown, I can be sure I'll see some ladies who get my heart rate up on first sight.

 

[getready]

Australia is opening its border to chinese international students soon. Let's see how many are still willing to go here after the incessant bashing of China by aussie media and politicians plus increase in racist attacks against Asians.

Although I suspect a fair few dun care of politics and still like the idea of western education and some other white worshippers.

 

[Gatekeeper]

I feel this is more than economics. This is the hug your enemy approach.

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NOVEMBER 3, 202011:02 AMUPDATED 7 HOURS AGO
China says it supports Fujian in new integrated development with Taiwan: Xinhua
REUTERS/Stringer
BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s Communist Party says it will support Fujian province in exploring a new path for integrated development with Taiwan, state media reported on Tuesday.
Fujian is the province across a strait from Taiwan, which China regards as a wayward region.
In the next five years, China will help Taiwanese businesses participate in the Belt and Road Initiative and list on mainland markets, state news agency Xinhua reported, citing the ruling party’s recommendation for the economic and social development for 2021-2025.
The recommendation also said China will be on high alert for and be resolutely against separatist activities fighting for Taiwanese independence.
Reporting by Yew Lun Tian; Editing by Andew Heavens

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

@J20 RTS @localizer @OppositeDay @KIENCHIN @Nobonita Barua @B.I.B. OK, I wasn't going to say anything about taste in women because that's far off topic but since Seige left all your posts alone and doesn't seem to mind a little digression, I'll give my final thoughts on it.

Yes, I'm 100% serious in that post. I grew up in NYC so I've seen plenty of everything and I've never in my life seen an Indian woman whom I felt attracted to. Most of my Asian friends are also in the same boat. For me, their looks are not my preferred style even prior to factoring in any smells or hairiness, etc... I see some members have different tastes from me and that's normal. I particularly like non-hairy, thin yet athletic and toned East Asian women. (And I specifically put athletic in there to specify that she is NOT some bulimic lady with stork legs but one who never cheats her weekly squat days.) Personally, I find South Korean women to be most attractive on average; when I went to Seoul, I was flabbergasted by their dedication to beauty as I saw them take to the streets in high heels, stockings, and miniskirts in the December subzero weather. Korea and especially Korean women lead the fitness industry in Asia as female fitness modelling is far more developed and abundant there than in Japan or China. My ideal date would probably be a South Korean Instagram fitness model (not a body-builder; those are bulky and large while fitness models must be muscular yet show slim overall proportions). But I'm not going to live in Korea and I'm not chasing for that; I want a Chinese wife with Chinese kids in China. That's my dedication and obligation.

Next point is, as my original post stressed, India is full of religious nuts so even if you are attracted to Indian women, you still have to deal with the "Is she from a cult that will behead/acid splash her for talking to me or one that will behead me for talking to her?" ordeal.

You grew up in NYC? When I moved to NYC in my mid 20s, it was an eye-opening experience. Bouncing between Flushing and Herald Square area, I have never seen so many beautiful Korean and Chinese women in my life before. Was living the dream for a few years. Man, why did those glorious days have to end?

Yea, well, its a temporary feel good move.

Much like their actions against Vodafone, these political actions against foreign investment will only delay the rise of India and detriment it in the long term.

There is nothing wrong with restricting and remaining in control of foreign investment. It can be a very effective tool if used as part of a coherent national economic / development policy. India's actions against foreign investment are rash and do not serve any purpose for India's development, it is just shooting itself in the foot. On the other hand, China's effective policy of dictating the terms of foreign investment helped contribute to China's rapid development and rise. By restricting access to certain sectors, requiring VCs and transfers of technology, and having foreign investors play by its rules, China was able to catch up very rapidly technologically and economically. China's restrictions on Western tech giants such as Google and Facebook have allowed a robust domestic tech industry to develop, one that can now compete internationally, with world-class tech companies such as Tencent, Alibaba, Huawei, and ByteDance, companies that are making the likes of Trump and his posse crap in their pants. This can also been seen in the financial sector, where China is loosening its controls and allowing foreign firms to operate in this sector now that it's domestic players are mature and competitive. The ultimate validation of China's success can be seen in the fact that now the US, the so-called champion of "free market," for decades while it was the top dog, is scrambling to try to protect it's own markets from Chinese competition. This also means that China can't really complain about the US wanting to restrict the operations of Chinese firms, such as Byte Dance and Tencent in the US. Where the US goes too far and too low is in it's attempt to build an anti-Huawei alliance and its attempts to cut off Chinese companies from the semiconductor supply chain, efforts that will still ultimately prove futile and ineffective for the US.

 

[Gatekeeper]

Australia is opening its border to chinese international students soon. Let's see how many are still willing to go here after the incessant bashing of China by aussie media and politicians plus increase in racist attacks against Asians.

Although I suspect a fair few dun care of politics and still like the idea of western education and some other white worshippers.

The lure of Chinese money is too much for the OZ to resist.

 

[PiSigma]

The lure of Chinese money is too much for the OZ to resist.

Many years ago (10+) the university of Calgary invited the Dalai Lama to give a presentation even after warnings from Chinese student association and the local consulate. China immediately removed UofC from the accredited university list, ie China do not recognize degrees earned from it. So Chinese foreign students dropped off a cliff for a few years.

The fact that there are even more students now than 10 years ago, means there are even more power to China. Especially now that more students go back to China than 10 years ago as well after they finish.

If China decide to unaccredited all of Australian universities degrees from 2021 onwards for a few years, think of the chaos then.

 

[horse]

Getting off topic

This forum has females on it.

Any topics that seems inappropriate on that angle, should be squashed.

 

[Gatekeeper]

Many years ago (10+) the university of Calgary invited the Dalai Lama to give a presentation even after warnings from Chinese student association and the local consulate. China immediately removed UofC from the accredited university list, ie China do not recognize degrees earned from it. So Chinese foreign students dropped off a cliff for a few years.

The fact that there are even more students now than 10 years ago, means there are even more power to China. Especially now that more students go back to China than 10 years ago as well after they finish.

If China decide to unaccredited all of Australian universities degrees from 2021 onwards for a few years, think of the chaos then.

This is it. You don't bite off the hands that feed you. Of course, the western MSM will point to the "freedom of speech" crap. And China's is using trade to "bully" trading partners.

Look at how freedom of speech got you? Recent event prove freedom of speech only limited to western nations. Everybody else can take a running jump.

And who uses trade the most to get their way? Hmmmm that's a hard one!

 

[Gatekeeper]

That's giving them too much benefit from the doubt. If I see a million Indian women and aren't attracted to any, I've made up my mind. I can literally Google for the most gorgeous Indian actresses in the world and find nothing more than just barely ok for my taste. On the other hand, in every American city I go to, if I go to Chinatown or Koreatown, I can be sure I'll see some ladies who get my heart rate up on first sight.

How about the newly appointed foreign minister of New Zealand? Quite what the Chinese foreign minister make of this, I don't know.

 

[Tyler]

I feel this is more than economics. This is the hug your enemy approach.

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NOVEMBER 3, 202011:02 AMUPDATED 7 HOURS AGO
China says it supports Fujian in new integrated development with Taiwan: Xinhua
REUTERS/Stringer
BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s Communist Party says it will support Fujian province in exploring a new path for integrated development with Taiwan, state media reported on Tuesday.
Fujian is the province across a strait from Taiwan, which China regards as a wayward region.
In the next five years, China will help Taiwanese businesses participate in the Belt and Road Initiative and list on mainland markets, state news agency Xinhua reported, citing the ruling party’s recommendation for the economic and social development for 2021-2025.
The recommendation also said China will be on high alert for and be resolutely against separatist activities fighting for Taiwanese independence.
Reporting by Yew Lun Tian; Editing by Andew Heavens

Taiwan province should be reintegrated into Fujian as a special administrative region, mush like Hong Kong as part of Guangdong province.